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I suppose my build is low-end because I use 140mm fans? And you work for CaseLabs? Does the terrible attitude come with the case or do we have to pay extra for that? rolleyes.gif

You just lost a customer - and several more since I will be telling all of my friends - all PC enthusiasts - to avoid your company.


What??? Who's got the attitude here?? People here helped you in your process to find a solution to your setup but in your mind you wanted a specific case with an option that wasn't available and complained about it...you can't always have exactly what you want....even if ten thousand peoples would ask Toyota to make a Twin Turbo AWD Yaris they won't do it...

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I agree with b neg. Xnine came across as if his opinion was fact, but as seeing he is a rep, that shouldn't have happened. I just know from personal experience that Xnine is exceptional at what he does.

@baasha

Have you looked into the Caselabs SM8? You could get 3x140 drop in mount at the top, put one of your psu in the bottom, and get the SM8 psu bracket to mount your second psu in the front flex bay area. Just trying to help you, dude.

I suggest him that case but he didn't want to be strangled by an 8-slots layout and then I discovered the ST10...I even explain him how he could put 2 psu's in the bottom by using the psu mounting bracket....but in his head he was only seeing a TH10A....even if the case doesn't support 140mm fans.
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The funny thing is I've been afraid at times they will take away my 120mm options. I like 140mm options but only as an option. I need my 120mm safety blanket.
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post #7213 of 22193
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Because 140mm fans have NEVER been used in super high end builds. Watercooling companies have pushed 120mm fans on to people because of radiators. It really hasn't been but the last six months or so that people started requesting 140mm options, and I highly doubt that Jim is going to go back and re-design every chassis we have to accomodate 140mm fans. Future designs will probably have them as an option, but again, up until about 6 months ago, no one even really cared about 140mm fans.

I suppose my build is low-end because I use 140mm fans? And you work for CaseLabs? Does the terrible attitude come with the case or do we have to pay extra for that? rolleyes.gif

You just lost a customer - and several more since I will be telling all of my friends - all PC enthusiasts - to avoid your company.


I didn't mean that as an affront to your build at all, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. Like all companies, we go where the demand is. The truth of the matter is that 140mm fans have not been the defacto standard for enthusiast level builds, mainly because radiators have long been only available in 120mm spec. There haven't been many radiators in the past that accepted 140mm fans. Years ago cases came with 80 and 92mm fan spots in the rear. That's all but gone now. Companies have moved to 120mm as the standard. There wasn't even an industry standard for mounting 200mm fans up until about a year ago, and I suspect there still isn't, but companies are starting to make their 200mm fans with similar mounting now.

The push to 140mm has literally only been within the last few months. So all of the cases previously released didn't have that as an option. Seeing as that it's now something people are demanding more of, that's what we'll try to provide for in the future. As more radiators are produced with 140mm, you'll see more companies move to accommodate that.
post #7214 of 22193
Way too many briefs in bunches here. Everyone is right to some extent. XNine explained himself above but even otherwise I took his first post to mean in a general term. Now the 140mm rad and fan options are not only viable, they can be better performers without any sacrifice needed. So naturally all case manufacturers are beginning to provide options for 140x rads. The modularity of Caselabs simply means it is easier to adapt a lot of existing cases for that option but not all.
post #7215 of 22193
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Because 140mm fans have NEVER been used in super high end builds. Watercooling companies have pushed 120mm fans on to people because of radiators. It really hasn't been but the last six months or so that people started requesting 140mm options, and I highly doubt that Jim is going to go back and re-design every chassis we have to accomodate 140mm fans. Future designs will probably have them as an option, but again, up until about 6 months ago, no one even really cared about 140mm fans.

I suppose my build is low-end because I use 140mm fans? And you work for CaseLabs? Does the terrible attitude come with the case or do we have to pay extra for that? rolleyes.gif

You just lost a customer - and several more since I will be telling all of my friends - all PC enthusiasts - to avoid your company.


I didn't mean that as an affront to your build at all, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. Like all companies, we go where the demand is. The truth of the matter is that 140mm fans have not been the defacto standard for enthusiast level builds, mainly because radiators have long been only available in 120mm spec. There haven't been many radiators in the past that accepted 140mm fans. Years ago cases came with 80 and 92mm fan spots in the rear. That's all but gone now. Companies have moved to 120mm as the standard. There wasn't even an industry standard for mounting 200mm fans up until about a year ago, and I suspect there still isn't, but companies are starting to make their 200mm fans with similar mounting now.

The push to 140mm has literally only been within the last few months. So all of the cases previously released didn't have that as an option. Seeing as that it's now something people are demanding more of, that's what we'll try to provide for in the future. As more radiators are produced with 140mm, you'll see more companies move to accommodate that.

Now this is more like it J,I concur with all of this,except 140 based kit has been making solid progression over the last year or so...not months.
140 based rads and fans will be the basis of loops in the future,120s are done..there will be little advancement in that field now,much like 92's before that...

Embrace the future.
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post #7216 of 22193
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The funny thing is I've been afraid at times they will take away my 120mm options. I like 140mm options but only as an option. I need my 120mm safety blanket.

I don't think that's something you have to worry about. 120mm will still be a big thing, at least until PCs become smaller or antiquated altogether. For me, I bought micro center out of their Gentle Typhoons in January, the old ones, not the new, so I'll have to stick with 120mm until those are all dead, Lol. I'm waiting for numbers on the new Noctua Redux fans. The Crimson and Black versions look sweet
post #7217 of 22193
I feel like in the near future even less people will be water cooling anyway as components continue to lower in power consumption and heat. I'm sure the hardcore enthusiasts will keep the industry alive though.
post #7218 of 22193
I know!!! I'll replace my D15 A15 fans for sure if they do another color.
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Because 140mm fans have NEVER been used in super high end builds. Watercooling companies have pushed 120mm fans on to people because of radiators. It really hasn't been but the last six months or so that people started requesting 140mm options, and I highly doubt that Jim is going to go back and re-design every chassis we have to accomodate 140mm fans. Future designs will probably have them as an option, but again, up until about 6 months ago, no one even really cared about 140mm fans.

I suppose my build is low-end because I use 140mm fans? And you work for CaseLabs? Does the terrible attitude come with the case or do we have to pay extra for that? rolleyes.gif

You just lost a customer - and several more since I will be telling all of my friends - all PC enthusiasts - to avoid your company.


I didn't mean that as an affront to your build at all, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. Like all companies, we go where the demand is. The truth of the matter is that 140mm fans have not been the defacto standard for enthusiast level builds, mainly because radiators have long been only available in 120mm spec. There haven't been many radiators in the past that accepted 140mm fans. Years ago cases came with 80 and 92mm fan spots in the rear. That's all but gone now. Companies have moved to 120mm as the standard. There wasn't even an industry standard for mounting 200mm fans up until about a year ago, and I suspect there still isn't, but companies are starting to make their 200mm fans with similar mounting now.

The push to 140mm has literally only been within the last few months. So all of the cases previously released didn't have that as an option. Seeing as that it's now something people are demanding more of, that's what we'll try to provide for in the future. As more radiators are produced with 140mm, you'll see more companies move to accommodate that.

Now this is more like it J,I concur with all of this,except 140 based kit has been making solid progression over the last year or so...not months.
140 based rads and fans will be the basis of loops in the future,120s are done..there will be little advancement in that field now,much like 92's before that...

Embrace the future.

While they've been out there for about a year, the demand hasn't really been there until recently. Either way, if it's what the future brings its not something we'll rail against, it's something that we will embrace. Change takes time, is all. Less so for us, because we have the ability to adapt quickly.

Off to the clinic, have to save puppies and kitties lives!
post #7220 of 22193
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

Because 140mm fans have NEVER been used in super high end builds. Watercooling companies have pushed 120mm fans on to people because of radiators. It really hasn't been but the last six months or so that people started requesting 140mm options, and I highly doubt that Jim is going to go back and re-design every chassis we have to accomodate 140mm fans. Future designs will probably have them as an option, but again, up until about 6 months ago, no one even really cared about 140mm fans.

I suppose my build is low-end because I use 140mm fans? And you work for CaseLabs? Does the terrible attitude come with the case or do we have to pay extra for that? rolleyes.gif

You just lost a customer - and several more since I will be telling all of my friends - all PC enthusiasts - to avoid your company.


I didn't mean that as an affront to your build at all, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. Like all companies, we go where the demand is. The truth of the matter is that 140mm fans have not been the defacto standard for enthusiast level builds, mainly because radiators have long been only available in 120mm spec. There haven't been many radiators in the past that accepted 140mm fans. Years ago cases came with 80 and 92mm fan spots in the rear. That's all but gone now. Companies have moved to 120mm as the standard. There wasn't even an industry standard for mounting 200mm fans up until about a year ago, and I suspect there still isn't, but companies are starting to make their 200mm fans with similar mounting now.

The push to 140mm has literally only been within the last few months. So all of the cases previously released didn't have that as an option. Seeing as that it's now something people are demanding more of, that's what we'll try to provide for in the future. As more radiators are produced with 140mm, you'll see more companies move to accommodate that.

Now this is more like it J,I concur with all of this,except 140 based kit has been making solid progression over the last year or so...not months.
140 based rads and fans will be the basis of loops in the future,120s are done..there will be little advancement in that field now,much like 92's before that...

Embrace the future.

While they've been out there for about a year, the demand hasn't really been there until recently. Either way, if it's what the future brings its not something we'll rail against, it's something that we will embrace. Change takes time, is all. Less so for us, because we have the ability to adapt quickly.

Off to the clinic, have to save puppies and kitties lives!

Please don't think im insinuating CL won't roll with the times,my post was more for the naysayers and 120 diehards.
CL already cater for the 140 crowd,just not extensively like 120's
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