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Just to keep things straight, the TH10A doesn't natively support 140mm fans.

That's correct. The fundamentals of the case haven't changed - just want to be sure everyone understands that wink.gif
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To Jason's & Jim's points, if you haven't been paying close attention, allow me point out a prime example: The transition from the TH10 > TH10A is a direct reflection of paying attention to customers' needs. The TH10A supports 140s natively. If you consider the 5:1 ratio, and associated manufacturing costs to incorporate these changes, this is a direct demonstration that CL is onboard & understands their customers..............

Just to keep things straight, the TH10A doesn't natively support 140mm fans.

Ah, yes...Correction...140's require a bracket. Previous post corrected. Nice catch.
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Double post.
Edited by Neo Zuko - 5/29/14 at 11:57am
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post #7264 of 22194
I would say longevity of a fan is pretty important too.

So my front panel on my SM8 is a bit bowed possibly from a cross country move I did in my civic, not visually much really, but if u tap one side it makes a metal on metal clang while the other side is solid with no clang... Should I bother with purchasing a new one? It's pretty nitpicky really. Maybe I did this from grasping it wrong a few times I dunno. Maybe it was always this way and I never noted it until now. Hard to say really.
Edited by Neo Zuko - 5/29/14 at 12:02pm
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post #7265 of 22194
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Originally Posted by akira749 View Post

Just to keep things straight, the TH10A doesn't natively support 140mm fans.

Flexbays is the trump card. Hence why they so "flexible". Rest of the case, all 120s.
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Not really, I sold off my last machine to help pay for my new truck. (among other things) So I would have to start over, $500 is how much it would cost to get all the parts I want brand new. But when my CPU (3570K) is folding at 4.7GHz under 60C, and my GPU has never seen a temp over 60C it just kind of seems silly to spend $500 to cut those numbers down by ten to fifteen degrees. I'll see where I'm at when the 280x gets here. Maybe I'll do a GPU only loop?

I had this same CPU watercooled last build, and at this frequency with a waterblock on it my temps were only a handful of degrees lower. Right now I'm just using the Silverstone 120mm down draft cooler. So to spend all that money to see my max core temp go down 5C seems like a poor investment. Although I guess it's not fully about the temps, it's about the hobby itself that I enjoy and keep ditching and coming back to it. So expensive, but so much fun!

That's why I'm holding back because I think I should wait until I upgrade motherboard and CPU to determine whether or not it needs a waterblock on it.

But the contents of my cart are pretty much as follows:

EK Supremacy Clean Acetal
EK 280x (CSQ, meh)
240mm XT45
140mm ST30
EK DDC PWM 140 pump/top/res
Then fittings are undecided, really want to do hardline this time though.

Two loops, i would stick to one, less complication and gear, especially for a SFF build. I'm a good 10°c cooler on water @ 4.7 vs stock clocks on a hyper 212. I think the massive loop has some help in that tongue.gif. Curious why you chose the DDC over the much "beloved" D5? Smaller size?
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The size, and not having to adjust it from the bottom with a screw driver, because where I plan to mount it the bottom would be inaccessible. I wonder if there is enough space to put a D5 pump down where the SSD rack is on the S3? Anyone doing that? I could drill a hole and put a passthrough in the little midplate and put a little tube res in the upper half where the window is, that would be pretty cool and keep it tidy.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akira749 View Post

Just to keep things straight, the TH10A doesn't natively support 140mm fans.

Flexbays is the trump card. Hence why they so "flexible". Rest of the case, all 120s.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickg1 View Post

Not really, I sold off my last machine to help pay for my new truck. (among other things) So I would have to start over, $500 is how much it would cost to get all the parts I want brand new. But when my CPU (3570K) is folding at 4.7GHz under 60C, and my GPU has never seen a temp over 60C it just kind of seems silly to spend $500 to cut those numbers down by ten to fifteen degrees. I'll see where I'm at when the 280x gets here. Maybe I'll do a GPU only loop?

I had this same CPU watercooled last build, and at this frequency with a waterblock on it my temps were only a handful of degrees lower. Right now I'm just using the Silverstone 120mm down draft cooler. So to spend all that money to see my max core temp go down 5C seems like a poor investment. Although I guess it's not fully about the temps, it's about the hobby itself that I enjoy and keep ditching and coming back to it. So expensive, but so much fun!

That's why I'm holding back because I think I should wait until I upgrade motherboard and CPU to determine whether or not it needs a waterblock on it.

But the contents of my cart are pretty much as follows:

EK Supremacy Clean Acetal
EK 280x (CSQ, meh)
240mm XT45
140mm ST30
EK DDC PWM 140 pump/top/res
Then fittings are undecided, really want to do hardline this time though.

Two loops, i would stick to one, less complication and gear, especially for a SFF build. I'm a good 10°c cooler on water @ 4.7 vs stock clocks on a hyper 212. I think the massive loop has some help in that tongue.gif. Curious why you chose the DDC over the much "beloved" D5? Smaller size?

This.

I struggled to squeeze a D5 in my S3.
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post #7268 of 22194
all this recent fan talk just as one of the motors in a ap-15 is going bonkers, sounds like a swarm of angry bees just from one fan lol.
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I provisioned 3 extras just for that eventuality.
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I have extras, only downside is I have to drain the entire loop to get to this fan lol.
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