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It's my understanding that Push/pull only helps to essentially lower noise on thick rads with high fin density while keeping them cool, otherwise you'd need push or pull fans pushing at much higher speeds, thus causing more noise.
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yes that is what i mean. however i ment to say thin rads !

Gotcha. The XT45 is an in between rad in terms of thickness. But if you're saying I can get away with AP-15s in push or pull on a medium thickness rad that works for me. I have no desire to buy more AP-15s considering how hard they are to come by.

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It's my understanding that Push/pull only helps to essentially lower noise on thick rads with high fin density while keeping them cool, otherwise you'd need push or pull fans pushing at much higher speeds, thus causing more noise.

Thanks for that info.
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High fpi rads, like the GTX, benefit from high rpm fans (> 1500 rpm). Most rads do well with low to medium speed. I keep my Cougar 140s at a low 400rpm and they're dead silent. Pushing them to max output 1k, and they're still pretty silent. Though, thirty of them do bring up the decibels biggrin.gif. I'm using UT60s.

For my old 690ii build, I used an rs120, rs240, & rx240 using single banks of R4s. They were mainly running ~800-1000 rpms.
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yes that is what i mean. however i ment to say thin rads !

Gotcha. The XT45 is an in between rad in terms of thickness. But if you're saying I can get away with AP-15s in push or pull on a medium thickness rad that works for me. I have no desire to buy more AP-15s considering how hard they are to come by.

yes 60mm + really are what you need to worry about push pull, even then i have a few 4250 ( and am working to buy 5400rpm in a full lot of 100 fans ) GTs and i have to say they have no problem either way in just push or pull.

the nice thing is with the pwm they are silent at low speeds, and when i bench ect the 5400 are hard to beat !
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My Mercury S3 build was the bell of the ball at Extravalanza....



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Ahhhh gotcha. Which MB blocks are those in case I find a buyer for my brand new EK Supremacy Nickel block (man I love the look of this block though frown.gif)?
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Oh boy. Looks like I'm going to have to find a suitor for my EK Supremacy nickel plated block then thumb.gif.

I want it! PM me if your selling! Is it the full clean nickel one?!
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My Mercury S3 build was the bell of the ball at Extravalanza....
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You got a build log for that one?
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Never did a build log, it is actually a pretty simple build.

Using a 4770K on an Asrock Z87E-ITX board with a Water 2.0 Performer for the cooling. For memory we are using 16 gig (2x8) Kingston HyperX Beast along with two HyperX 3K 240 Gig SSDs. PSU is a Thermaltake Toughpower DPS 750 and then for fans we are using four Fractal Silent Series R2 140 mm fans, dual front and top all set to intake.

I love the S3 because it is a perfect case for showing off a graphics card. Has amazing air flow, the window lets the graphics card be the highlight of the build and is small and light weight enough for easy transport. Plus my cable management skills are not nearly as impressive as most here so they hide nicely with the way the build is done.

We are going to be doing a similar build at PDXLAN next month. Going to actually build the system at the event. A few changes however, will be using a Z97E-ITX for the board, the RAM and SSD will be from ASRock and still have not figured out what 140mm fans I will be using.
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For those of you S3 owners, how much easier to you think it is to flush/refill your loop if you add the pedestal then without it? With the pedestal I'd put 2 x 240 rads down there. Without it I'd have one 240 up front and one up top. I'm trying to determine the best way to configure my loop so that draining/flushing it is as easy as possible. Having to physically take my loop apart from my last WC build is what turned me off to WCing so I want to do it right this time.
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Use some quick connect. smile.gif
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Use some quick connect. smile.gif

I probably will (although I never have so I'm going to have to research how those work exactly). However even with the quick connect fittings I imagine I'd still have to tilt my case all around and upside down depending on where my loop components are. So I'm looking for some feedback in terms of where things should be situated to make it the easiest come time to flush my loop.
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