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post #8311 of 22278
I'll reiterate what everyone else is saying. The Alphacool screws are pretty terrible. The threads strip easily, socket head instead of Philips, and they are tiny compared to the rads that they hold into place. They will dig into the AP15 screw holes unless you use a washer.

I replaced mine with nice stainless steel Phillips button head screws. So much better than the ACool ones. The only problem was that M3x35mm is impossible to find in a local hardware store (at least where I live), so I had to order them from one of those online hardware stores.

Re: 30mm vs 35mm on the S3 brackets. I've found that 30mm just barely gets through the fan>mount>rad. I was able to get only a couple of turns into the rad and that was it. I felt much better using a 35mm screw, but those are a bit too long so you will have to use a spacer (or a fan filter or something) to prevent the screw from hitting the plate protecting the rad fins.
post #8312 of 22278
I agree with jhaze84. The alphacool screws are very cruddy. The heads are tiny and have to have washers to not sink into fans and threads strip very easily. Your better off find some better quality screws with bigger heads and same threads from your local hardware store like I did.
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post #8313 of 22278
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Originally Posted by PuffinMyLye View Post

I'd only be concerned of the head being too small to pass through the holes of my AP-15's as that's where they be sitting. For me it's going to go screws > fans > CL radiator mount > radiator.
I bought these
DrillSpot M3-0.5 x 30mm CL 12.9 DIN 912 Plain Socket Head Cap Screw, Pack of 100
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009JE7X6C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

works perfect with my AP15's/alphacool/CL rad mount.



I have extra's. How many do you need? I can get them to you quicker than from DrillSpot. Let me know thumb.gif
Edited by Ovrclck - 7/14/14 at 2:29pm
post #8314 of 22278
I converted my alphacool rads to m4, so smaller screws are no longer an issue. 1/8" bit too bore out the hole, tap was inexpensive, and used my drill very carefully to tap the holes.
post #8315 of 22278
Hmm...
post #8316 of 22278
Just be careful as M3 is small and has a bit of wiggle room, M4 doesn't. So it can get tight in some areas to install fans after converting the screws. Alphacool's housing is tight too, so at times, I had to bore into small portions of the housing frame. Alphacool rads have the blocking plates but i still used a small plate to ensure the bit and tap didn't go into the channels/fins. If you do it correctly it can be done with some basic tools. I've done about 10 rads or so and alpha are one of the easier ones (ek is more difficult as the spacing can be too wide once converted).
post #8317 of 22278
I must be the only one but for me, I never had any issues with the M3 screws on my Alphacool's. Sure I like my 6-32 10000000 times on my XSPC's and Darkside's but...biggrin.gif

Also, yes the head is tiny but it doesn't go through my fan holes. I have Swiftech Helix which has basically the same frame as an AP-15

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post #8318 of 22278
I don't have issues with M3 with slimmer rads but having had several Monsta's (including three 360s and three 480s), it can seem a bit weak (though it should hold). But, i do feel the Alphacool stock screws are not up to the task due to the smaller head.


One of my 560s, tapped to M4, using McMasterCarr M4-.07 x30mm SS hex screws thumb.gif :



With these screws, I can still grab the threads even though the plugs are pushing out the rad from the bracket.
Edited by wermad - 7/14/14 at 4:43pm
post #8319 of 22278
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I agree on not liking the copper screws that come with them, but M3 are fine with GTs if you use a washer, even without they'll work, I just like the feel of the washer. I also prefer button head to philips for the more stealthy look:

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post #8320 of 22278
Wow I really appreciate all the responses. Super helpful. I will probably see how the included screws work when the case arrives on Wednesday. If I'm unhappy with them I've got a pretty decent hardware store nearby I can probably get screws at. I'm thinking M3 6-32 screws would be ideal.
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