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post #9691 of 22174
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ah. Ill get that hole punch set then.

What size hole should I drill for m4 and m3 screws? did you use a hand drill for your case?

For a M3 screw, one would use a 3.2mm drill bit. For a M4 screw, one would use a 4.3mm drill bit.

Not much room for error there! I hope these guys have a milling machine with digital read outs!

Go bigger on those holes by at least 1mm each so you have a little play for alignment.

BTW - I'm a Journeyman Machinist and I do know a little bit about this stuff! boxing3.gif
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post #9692 of 22174
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Not much room for error there! I hope these guys have a milling machine with digital read outs!

Go bigger on those holes by at least 1mm each so you have a little play for alignment.

BTW - I'm a Journeyman Machinist and I do know a little bit about this stuff! boxing3.gif

I have used these drill bits, especially the M4, successfully numerous times. When I drilled these holes, my only tool was a cordless drill. Although, I center punched the holes before drilling them.

BTW - the hole size for a M3 washer is 3.2mm and a M4 washer is 4.3mm.

For me, I prefer to use the standard drill bit sizes without much tolerance for error. I like screws to fit into the hole without any play.
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post #9693 of 22174
You don't need to adjust for misalignment in a washer - for a pattern of holes you may need to, unless your layout and punch marks are right on the money... biggrin.gif
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post #9694 of 22174
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You don't need to adjust for misalignment in a washer - for a pattern of holes you may need to, unless your layout and punch marks are right on the money... biggrin.gif

That is completely true.

Most of the time my layout and punch marks are right on the money. Although, I have messed up the layout a few times but it is not a big issue with the cases and accessories from Case Labs.
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post #9695 of 22174
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I have used these drill bits, especially the M4, successfully numerous times. When I drilled these holes, my only tool was a cordless drill. Although, I center punched the holes before drilling them.

BTW - the hole size for a M3 washer is 3.2mm and a M4 washer is 4.3mm.

For me, I prefer to use the standard drill bit sizes without much tolerance for error. I like screws to fit into the hole without any play.

I used 8-32 machine screws to mount my reservoirs to the chassis divider and the bit was pretty much exactly the same size as the screws and there is practically no play at all. That spring loaded center punch helped with that.

I just measured the hole pattern and made a template, taped the template to the divider and center-punched and drilled the holes.
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post #9696 of 22174
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I just measured the hole pattern and made a template, taped the template to the divider and center-punched and drilled the holes.

I did a similar thing when I drilled the two M4 holes for my pump/reservoir combo in the attachment plate.
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Can't wait for my Mercury S3 to get here!
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Can't wait for my Mercury S3 to get here!

ditto!
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So as sods law would have it, shortly after I arrive at work (Now) the remaining components of my build get delivered (and Fed Ex can't find the house again with the FINAL shipment) Arrgghhh.

I guess we can say my flushing and putting together of this machine will FINALLY be happening this week.....now I just have to pay it off then decide on GPU's whoo hoo!
post #9700 of 22174
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thank you so much! really appreciate the help.

Ive actually already assembled and built my rig, im doing a complete teardown however for this new configuration and I was going to drill into the chassis divider as it is individually, without the motherboard tray in place and completely seperated from the rest of the chassis

Should I use a hand drill instead of my drill press? and is there anything wrong with using normal masking tape?

Whatever you do, don't rush. I'm fairly handy with tools but due to my impatience I've put a couple of idiot marks on my midplate and chassis divider. I've got some gunmetal paint that I can use to make the marks less visible. It's not anything that most people would notice but it really sucks.
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