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post #1 of 10
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Warning: If you don't want to read a poor man's story, I suggest you leave Also, INCOMING WALL OF TEXT.

Alright guys. So I have a 3-4 year old Gateway desktop that I'm upgrading. Reason is that I just want to.. and the computer wasn't even good during the time i bought it (it was around $300.

Old specs:
E4300 (1.8GHz dual core)
integrated 945G intel graphics

As you can tell, this thing could not play games. So i decided to make it able to. Probably around .5 of a year to 1.5 years ago, I decided to upgrade from the crappy integrated graphics into an EVGA 8600 GTS, and along with the video card, a 450W generic PSU (Power-Up! brand). Being a poor guy and all, I decided to go for the 8600GTS compared to the vastly superior 8800GT. I cant remember if my CPU would bottleneck it to be honest.

And nowadays, I run a 1920 x 1080 display. My rig sucks at playing games, obviously. Even if I make it 1280x800 windowed. So again, i decided an upgrade was in order.

I had an original budget of $200 shipped for a CPU and video card. I didnt do any research and resorted to asking for spoonfeeding on OCN, until someone told me to make a wishlist on Newegg and then come back.

Because of the fact that most video cards nowadays used PCIe 2.0 x16, I also had to upgrade my mobo. I raised my budget again to $400 IIRC. I created 4 Newegg wishlists. 3 AMD wishlists, a low price, medium price, and high price one, and a low price Intel budget. Someone pointed out that my current RAM would not be compatible with the newer mobo, so I also decided to buy more RAM, and also a new PSU, seeing how my RAM was only 533Mhz and I thought my PSU didn't have enough wattage for the job because I used the newegg power supply calculator. I later learned that the Newegg calculator says a wattage higher than needed in order to get more money; I then used other power supply calulators. I then raised my budget to $500 and discarded all my Newegg wishlists except for the high end AMD one, which I updated with better parts to reflect the improved budget.

A member of OCN provided me with a good set of parts; telling me not to buy generic brands. I also read that I definitely should buy a generic PSU as these can blow up or something on you.. even though I had no problem wih my generic PSU for a good 3 years so far. But i know not to take the risk anymore.

So i decided to try and go with the parts the OCN member posted. I made a couple of changes though as I found good deals from good brands. He also accidentally sent me an ATX mobo instead of an mATX one. So I corrected that. The mobo I replaced it with happened to only support DDR2 RAM, everything else was the same. The reason I didnt notice this was because the models were the same but the mATX mobo had a "-M" on the end, hence I thought theyd have the same specs but different form factor. After i realized this i of course changed it to the same mobo but with DDR3 support.

So I was pretty much all set, just confirming all the parts were right and such. I added to my shopping the cart the cheapest, most decent brand name parts.
here were the prices iirc (without shipping and before rebate)
$135 GTX 460 768mb
$49.99 OCZ 550W
$99.99 X4 640 (3GHz quad core)
~$45 RAM DDR3 RAM
~$89 Asus mATX mobo (AM3, DDR3, PCIe 2.0)

This was all on NCIX.

So I was all set, ready to go. i had bought two $250 Visa gift cards for the purchase. Unfortunately, i had forgotten about the tax, so the total was a whopping $560.. I was disappoint. I had to lose $60 worth of stuff! I could only thinking of downgrading my GPU as every other part was pretty much at its lowest.. You may have realized it but I didnt.. the total should have came to $500! I didnt realize this after I ordered but oh well. The OCZ was on a promo, and as I kept adding/removing things to my cart, I guess i added the $80 PSU instead of the $50 one! Anyways, I quickly got to work, trying to get down by $60. I tried going down to a triple core and a 5770 but I couldnt get down enough. I finally noticed the Sweetheart 2011 savings (or whatever its called) and found a 430W Thermaltake for $30 and a 5770 for $119. So I had everything checked.

~$89 Asus mobo
$119 5770 (with MW2!)
$45 Corsair 4GB DDR3-1333
$99 X4 640
$30 430W

So i tried ordering. After googling. I was under the impression that I could link the two prepaid credit cards to my Paypal and use the combined funds to purchase my merch. Sadly, this was not the case. I decided to split up the order intelligently.. it ended up being $248 on one card and $226 on the other. i had $23 to spare on the card. Before I ran into the tax, I was debating on getting TF2 or CSS. When i got surprised by the tax, i thought i wouldnt be able to buy neither. Luckily, now I can

So hopefully this new rig will be able to play games decently.. at least max settings on 1280 x 800.
post #2 of 10
Will be a nice upgrade, what parts are u using from old comp.
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post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by ban916 View Post
Will be a nice upgrade, what parts are u using from old comp.
mATX case, SATA 7200RPM, 1 DVD DL drive, 1 DVD RW drive, VIA SATA card

i think thats it
post #4 of 10
Not the 1333 RAM, please - better RAM, better price - and even to many others, better brand!
post #5 of 10
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I chose that before - others put it down, so I went with some Corsair RAM.

Anyways, everything is working fine at least on VGA.. can't get a good picture on HDMI for my life..
post #6 of 10
why did you write that you learned about good psus when you go and buy that awful thermaltake?

depending on how the 12v rails are split, you might not even be able to power that 5770.
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i would get the phenom 2 x2 560 for same price and unlock it to quad core
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Not the 1333 RAM, please - better RAM, better price - and even to many others, better brand!
do u work for a ram company of some sort? you seem to be very passionate about it
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post #9 of 10
OCN Market Place has great deal, give it a good look!
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Originally Posted by RushMore1205 View Post
do u work for a ram company of some sort? you seem to be very passionate about it
Man, I wish what I hate is that so often it's underlooked, people get generic RAM for ripoff price, come to OCN complaining they can't get RAM multiplier running correct due to bus clock OC or worse yet can't OC any further directly becuase of the generic RAM.... when for $5 less you could've gotten RAM that would've allowed you to go that far and further. Generic RAM is something that belongs in prebuilts, nothing else. With custom built PCs we always have better choices and they're often cheaper. It was like that in 2001, and still often is now.
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