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Enthusiast dual/quad socket with hardcore OC ability please.
Some manufacturer needs to go the way of the SR-2 with BD..
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I can wait for Q3 The Underdog will be born.
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Enthusiast dual/quad socket with hardcore OC ability please.
Some manufacturer needs to go the way of the SR-2 with BD..
why is it unwise for AMD to go into that?
do you know why saaya(Peter Tan) left EVGA?(he was in charge of the SR-2 mobo.)
do you think EVGA recouped their investment into the SR-2?
with him leaving, that could only mean one thing.
of course, that is just me guess.

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Just once I wish people could really look at this from a logical standpoint.

To begin with, every engineer and every resource is claimed. There are no extra resources at the company (ours or anyone else in the semi industry).

So, to add any new project, you have to either a.) add more resources or b.) stop doing something else.

OK, are we all clear on this?

Now, to do either a or b above, you need to build a business case and then go to the board of directors to ask for the $5M (in a) or go to the desktop business and ask them to cancel something on the roadmap already (in b).

How does that conversation look?

"Hi board, I know you guys are really smart, you been in the business for years. I would like $5M to pursue a nich part in a rapidly shrinking market. I believe that with this investment we can net between $1M and $2M in revenue. I magically believe that even though there has been negative momentum in this product space for the last 4 years, that somehow I defy all laws of logic and fact to actually grow this market."

Hmmm, that doesn't look easy. So, let's check out option B.

"Hi desktop business unit. I know you have $5M to invest on project X. It is planned to bring in between $20M and $30M over its 18 month life and it will address about 25% of the client market, that part that is growing. What I would like you to do, instead, is divert those $5M into my project that will be targeted at a shrinking niche in the market and is expected to bring in $2-3M instead of the $20-30M you were expecting. How about it?"

Let me know which tactic you think is going to be more successful. This process would be the same with our competitor, everyone staffs and invests to their roadmap, so even if you have billions in the bank, it is the same process.

People keep forgetting that they need to apply reality to the situation.
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AMD wouldn't do crap, it's the board manufacturers task.
Just allow extra features in a server board, no real extra R&D required..
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Just allow extra features in a server board, no real extra R&D required..
testing & validation.
if you dont do that, sandy bridge happens.
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Exactly. You think no extra R&D, but I am guessing that a.) you want what you buy to work, b.) you want your board manufacturer to be able to work with AMD to ensure the board works and c.) if you have a problem with said board, you don't want AMD to say "sorry, that is an unsupported config, you're out of luck."

Oh, then I am sure people are going to want AMD to market that solution, right? Does anyone want a product manager to figure out all of the cool features that need to be added? Next, you'll want to overclock it....

Let's face it, there is millions of dollars of cost that would be spent in order to reap the hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential revenue out there waiting.
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Exactly. You think no extra R&D, but I am guessing that a.) you want what you buy to work, b.) you want your board manufacturer to be able to work with AMD to ensure the board works and c.) if you have a problem with said board, you don't want AMD to say "sorry, that is an unsupported config, you're out of luck."

Oh, then I am sure people are going to want AMD to market that solution, right? Does anyone want a product manager to figure out all of the cool features that need to be added? Next, you'll want to overclock it....

Let's face it, there is millions of dollars of cost that would be spent in order to reap the hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential revenue out there waiting.
ZOMG JF-AMD *dies*

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testing & validation.
if you dont do that, sandy bridge happens.
lol and the TLB errata? Similar problem kinda actually not so similar
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Exactly. You think no extra R&D, but I am guessing that a.) you want what you buy to work, b.) you want your board manufacturer to be able to work with AMD to ensure the board works and c.) if you have a problem with said board, you don't want AMD to say "sorry, that is an unsupported config, you're out of luck."

Oh, then I am sure people are going to want AMD to market that solution, right? Does anyone want a product manager to figure out all of the cool features that need to be added? Next, you'll want to overclock it....

Let's face it, there is millions of dollars of cost that would be spent in order to reap the hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential revenue out there waiting.


AHEM... erm, yeah to be honest JF-AMD hit the nail in the face, in the crotch and then on the head. People don't always consider the effort, time and costs of these things
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that's for server. server is launching later than desktop this time around.
Seems like a very smart move by AMD, sell a lot of desktop CPUs to get the Server production up and running, moreover, the prospect customers in the Server market will get to see benchmark results of the desktop client CPU in order to entice them to buy the Server variant!

AMD is definitely thinking wisely now Kudos to them, let's just hope Bulldozer does plow over the competition this time around!
(I am dearly hoping so!)

Regardless of what AMD does do, I just want some benches on Bulldozer CPUs YESTERDAY!!
Edited by _GTech - 2/16/11 at 6:12am
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Enthusiast dual/quad socket with hardcore OC ability please.
Some manufacturer needs to go the way of the SR-2 with BD..
That would be insanely but unlikely. Ultra high-end consumer products probably rarely recouperate their costs similar to the Bugatti Veyron...yes its incredibly fast and expensive but Volkswagen also sells them at a huge loss per car (something to the effect of 3+ million per)

But otherwise yes...can you imagine a quad 16-core Opteron rig? Talk about a folding monster. So just go out and win the lotto and then you can build pretty much anything you want, hehe.

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Originally Posted by joemunky View Post


AHEM... erm, yeah to be honest JF-AMD hit the nail in the face, in the crotch and then on the head. People don't always consider the effort, time and costs of these things
Also good to have JF-AMD inject some expert/insider perspective on these discussions.

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Seems like a very smart move by AMD, sell a lot of desktop CPUs to get the Server production up and running, moreover, the prospect customers in the Server market will get to see benchmark results of the desktop client CPU in order to entice them to buy the Server variant!

AMD is definitely thinking wisely now Kudos to them, let's just hope Bulldozer does plow over the competition this time around!
(I am dearly hoping so!)

Regardless of what AMD does do, I just want some benches on Bulldozer CPUs YESTERDAY!!
Yup, the current quad Opteron rig offers 80% more performance for roughly 20%-30% more price than a dual Xeon rig and both chips trade blows when it comes to benchmark performance. (source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4180/o...s-a-speedbump_ With the new quad 16-core chips it'll be very interesting to see how AMD tries to further muscle into the server market.
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