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  • 32% (289)
    Yes, it will.-
  • 67% (606)
    No, I don't think so...
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post #231 of 616
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Originally Posted by crossy82 View Post
What are you on about?A die shrink has plenty to do with it,lol,taken from your statement:

'It's mainly power consumption,Heat and yields that benefit from a die shrink'

Power consumption when lowered =higher clocks,more hardware.
Heat lowered=more headroom for clocks,ability to add hardware.
Yields higher=cheaper to build/price competitive.

Now i'm know expert but i think the 3 things above are quite an advantage and do make a difference.
All of the above meens nothing as chips still launch at moderate clock speeds.

And why are you talking about clock speed? My statement was talking about on a per-clock, per-core basis

If AMD take a Phenom 2 and die shrink it to 32nm it won't increase the core's per-clock performance.

When Nvidia shrunk the GTX200 cores from 65nm to 55nm did it improve per clock performance? No it didn't.
post #232 of 616
This thread makes me sad.

All I can say is I hope the 4 core bulldozer chip is as fast, or faster than the i5-2500k and priced accordingly. If its marginally faster I will probably end up switching over, if not it won't be worth my time. Neither companies 6 or 8 core cpus are going to matter to me, Intels will be too expensive and AMDs will lack per core performance if its not as or nearly as expensive as Intels offerings.

I see no reason why AMD won't occupy the same price points with their cpus if their performance is there. They had $1000 chips in the past when they had the performance crown, if they take it again, I expect pricing to match performance just as it did with Phenom II as such the 1090T dropped price several times in the first year it was out because it couldn't match the i7-920 in many cases and dropped from $230 to $200 /w $10 gift card on Newegg once the i5-2500k came out.

AMD is a good company, they are aware of how their products perform and price their cpus accordingly. If bulldozer is cheaper it will be because it doesn't perform as well, if its more expensive its because it performs better. Drop the fanboyism on both sides please, it gets old.
    
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post #233 of 616
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AMDs will lack per core performance
Name me one 6 core CPU from AMD that has worse per clock performance then it's 4 core brother.
Edited by scatteh316 - 4/17/11 at 9:38am
post #234 of 616
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
This thread makes me sad.

All I can say is I hope the 4 core bulldozer chip is as fast, or faster than the i5-2500k and priced accordingly. If its marginally faster I will probably end up switching over, if not it won't be worth my time. Neither companies 6 or 8 core cpus are going to matter to me, Intels will be too expensive and AMDs will lack per core performance if its not as or nearly as expensive as Intels offerings.

I see no reason why AMD won't occupy the same price points with their cpus if their performance is there. They had $1000 chips in the past when they had the performance crown, if they take it again, I expect pricing to match performance just as it did with Phenom II as such the 1090T dropped price several times in the first year it was out because it couldn't match the i7-920 in many cases and dropped from $230 to $200 /w $10 gift card on Newegg once the i5-2500k came out.

AMD is a good company, they are aware of how their products perform and price their cpus accordingly. If bulldozer is cheaper it will be because it doesn't perform as well, if its more expensive its because it performs better. Drop the fanboyism on both sides please, it gets old.
That's it in a nut shell. Well said!
 
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post #235 of 616
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AMD will always have the best bang for the buck. Intel will always own the high end market.
In the past, AMD owned both, so I wouldn't say "always."
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post #236 of 616
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
This thread makes me sad.

All I can say is I hope the 4 core bulldozer chip is as fast, or faster than the i5-2500k and priced accordingly. If its marginally faster I will probably end up switching over, if not it won't be worth my time. Neither companies 6 or 8 core cpus are going to matter to me, Intels will be too expensive and AMDs will lack per core performance if its not as or nearly as expensive as Intels offerings.

I see no reason why AMD won't occupy the same price points with their cpus if their performance is there. They had $1000 chips in the past when they had the performance crown, if they take it again, I expect pricing to match performance just as it did with Phenom II as such the 1090T dropped price several times in the first year it was out because it couldn't match the i7-920 in many cases and dropped from $230 to $200 /w $10 gift card on Newegg once the i5-2500k came out.

AMD is a good company, they are aware of how their products perform and price their cpus accordingly. If bulldozer is cheaper it will be because it doesn't perform as well, if its more expensive its because it performs better. Drop the fanboyism on both sides please, it gets old.
Who the hell are you and what have you done with Balla???
post #237 of 616
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Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth View Post
Who the hell are you and what have you done with Balla???
i think balla had his eyes opened to the fact some people stopped listening to him and his sb is the bestest most awesomest thing since sliced bread.
personally i'll be more than happy to see him showing he is more than civilized and a gentleman.
he knows what hes saying and can back it up but damn, it gets old reading the same thing over and over because people stopped reading his posts.
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post #238 of 616
It might beat Sandy, but by the time Bulldozer is out wouldn't Ivy be out? A whole new ball game when that comes.
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I actually don't care how it will stack up to SB, I will still get it as long as it's a huge improvement over Phenom II.
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post #240 of 616
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It might beat Sandy, but by the time Bulldozer is out wouldn't Ivy be out? A whole new ball game when that comes.
Enhanced Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge will be released around the same time.
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