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    Yes, it will.-
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    No, I don't think so...
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post #241 of 616
Bulldozer E
just sounds like Bulldozery
which is weird
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post #242 of 616
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Well then I guess they're releasing a 4 core version with HT that will be around $320, a 6 core version with HT that will be around $600-$700 and a 8 core version with HT that will be $1000+..

Yay.
What justifies twice the price for TWO more cores?
Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
A. Splitting a thread between 2 cores will not happen. Too much efficiency is lost, you end up with lower performance.

B. It is called an 8 core because there are 8 integer cores with 8 integer pipelines. There are also 8 FP pipelines. Why would it not be an 8-core?
Wasn't it said before that two cores would be split for a hyper threading type processing?
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/17/11 at 12:40pm
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post #243 of 616
cant we just wait and see????
    
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post #244 of 616
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Originally Posted by thealex132 View Post
Bulldozer E
just sounds like Bulldozery
which is weird
You need to share.
post #245 of 616
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Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth View Post
Who the hell are you and what have you done with Balla???
Perhaps I did get a bit carried away, but only because I started out well to do and ended up getting called a fanboy relentlessly despite my good intentions.

I am
Whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?

So I ran with that, which was terrible, but funny at the same time.

I try to be as unbiased as possible, I even said at the start of that thread that there was no reason for him to switch platforms on a single card but that doesn't mean it wouldn't bottleneck, just not enough in typical gaming to ever matter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasp1js View Post
I actually don't care how it will stack up to SB, I will still get it as long as it's a huge improvement over Phenom II.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
What justifies twice the price for TWO more cores?
Wasn't it said before that two cores would be split for a hyper threading type processing?

I dunno what their pricing will be, but pricing for high end computer parts is never based off performance vs lower end hardware. The 580 isn't worth 2 and a half times as much as a 470. A 6970 isn't worth over twice as much as a 6850, its just the way it works. The price points were set a long time ago, now Intel and AMD attempt to fill those areas with chips, that doesn't mean they're worth the price it just a set price point they've both been using for over 10 years.


A few people on this forum thought thats what Bulldozers version of HT was going to do, and of course once it was spoken it took off like wildfire. Several months ago JF shot it down as quickly as he could but it still lingers to this day.
    
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post #246 of 616
If it is going to be a 1000 dollars then I hope it fails to beat sandy bridge so it isn't that price and I can buy it lol.
    
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post #247 of 616
I'm hoping Bulldozer completely steamrolls Intel. But if that happened the prices would probably go out of whack.
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post #248 of 616
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Originally Posted by GameBoy View Post
I'm hoping Bulldozer completely steamrolls Intel. But if that happened the prices would probably go out of whack.
Intel will drop prices if AMD has something good.And if Intel drops prices so will AMD and so on.
Intel already asks to much for their actual chips which by costs (manufacturing costs) should be cheaper than any AMD CPU even now.
   
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post #249 of 616
Only time will tell...

So I took a guess.
post #250 of 616
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Originally Posted by crossy82 View Post
What are you on about?A die shrink has plenty to do with it,lol,taken from your statement:

'It's mainly power consumption,Heat and yields that benefit from a die shrink'

Power consumption when lowered =higher clocks,more hardware.
Heat lowered=more headroom for clocks,ability to add hardware.
Yields higher=cheaper to build/price competitive.

Now i'm know expert but i think the 3 things above are quite an advantage and do make a difference.
Keep in mind that process and architecture are two completely different things.

Take a look at 32nm Westmere vs. 45nm Magny Cours. The 45nm is about the same power, ~5-20% faster (integer & FP) and less expensive.

Don't count on die shrinks as your savior, architecture is just as important, if not more important.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogon View Post
It might beat Sandy, but by the time Bulldozer is out wouldn't Ivy be out? A whole new ball game when that comes.
No, IB will not be out at the same time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
Wasn't it said before that two cores would be split for a hyper threading type processing?
Yes, it was probably said, but that does not make it right.
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