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    Yes, it will.-
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post #271 of 616
All the AMD chips I've bought have said "Made in Malaysia", even though the company originated in California as far as I know.
    
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I was going to wait for Bulldozer, but I jumped ship when MicroCenter had a bundle deal for the 2600K. I would have waited longer, but AMD has released very little information about these chips.
Here's my plan:

Wait til Bulldozer comes out, and determine for MYSELF, between SB and BD, which one would be the best value for ME.
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post #273 of 616
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We live in America, a capitalist country. Intel was born here and resides here.

What Intel does is exactly what America was founded on. They bring a product to market and sell it for whatever its worth to the people. The people decide what they're willing to pay and Intel sells them goods based on how much they can get for them not how much it costs them to make.

Reducing the cost just means gaining a greater margin or profit. Its American economics 101, its how it works here. Its why John Deere, and most every other major industry/company out sourced their work to foreign countries like Mexico and China. American auto companies for instance typically don't even make their parts in the United States, some may not even be assembled here.

AMD is a company just like Intel, they do not sell their products for less because they care more about you than Intel does. They sell their products for less for many reasons, the main reasons would probably have to do with performance, name brand, and market share. Intel also has a much larger market share than AMD.

Thats what I have to say about that.
Maybe JF can elaborate on this (since he mentioned he did his degree in Economics or something like that) but that is totally wrong (based on my current knowledge of Global Economic Systems).

It may cut it for an Econ 101 course that everyone has to take but once you delve deeper into Location Theory, Central Places, Bid rent curves, Supply chains/Production Networks, Front/Back offices, Agglomeration/Clustering, Core/Periphery relationships, Producer Services, and Industrial Location you'll see that everything you've learnt in Econ 101 can be argued any which way and it will totally turn your world upside down.
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post #274 of 616
Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've read, it's not a full pledge 8 core processor, a bulldozer will be, but still a somewhat like a hyperthreaded... meaning like those new cars now with this "economode" features. It's like a V6 but turns down to V4 when not needed.

I guess we all need to wait for the final release, one thing is for sure, Intel is way ahead of it saleswise compare to its Sandy Brigde chips.

If BD and SB came out the same time, then I would say there will be a competition, but right now, Intel is way ahead by millions or even maybe billions.
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You can argue anything anyway you want. What you can't argue is good jobs being shipped over-seas.
    
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You can argue anything anyway you want. What you can't argue is good jobs being shipped over-seas.
So it's not okay for AMD to capitalize on cheaper labor? Intel used to (maybe they still do) have their chips manufactured in the Philippines. You're digging deep now, as you can't really bash AMD for something your beloved intel does as well. It's the American way.
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No, I'm saying neither company is good nor evil all they're doing is trying to make the most money that they can.

I'm not arguing for or against either company as I don't care about either company so far as I buy a product at a price point I expect to get my moneys worth compared to what I can get elsewhere at that same price point.

If I lost my job today, AMD wouldn't come help me out, neither would Intel. I don't form relationships with large multinational corporations.
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You can argue anything anyway you want. What you can't argue is good jobs being shipped over-seas.
Unfortunately you've tapped into something that will not be changed under our current, two party, capitalist system. That's very disheartening. I guess I'll give it 2 and 1/2 if you count the joke that is the tea party. Still pathetic, and still nothing changes.

Maybe it's time for us to start a revolution, AMD and Intel fanboys alike. It can go down in history as the "Compulution". Not registered or trademarked so run with it as you like.
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You can argue anything anyway you want. What you can't argue is good jobs being shipped over-seas.
Actually no that is the biggest untruth I've ever heard and it's all the "plebs" that parrot it that make it spread. (Not that I'm calling you a pleb or anything, sorry).

The 3 biggest "world cities" are still NY, London, and Tokyo. They are the top tier highest world cities in the world. Next come places like LA, Manchester, Paris, Frankfurt, HK/PRDR (I know not a city but a region).

Anyways, the top tier jobs are still being kept "in house" in America. The reason being; tacit knowledge being kept in those areas, the chance for face to face contact/networking (ie. doing lunch with a supplier or partner business), instant feedback/flexibility, a pool of highly skilled, and highly educated labour and "embeddedness".

When you say, I'm going to get a job in <Some IT field> where do you think of going first? Silicon Valley? Route 128 (Mass.)? Redmond? Chances are you don't consider places like some random town in India or the Philippines.

The fact is the "good" jobs are being kept in the US/UK/Japan but the low order jobs that only require unskilled or semi skilled workers are all being offshored overseas (you can make an argument for silicon chip production but the people employed there are skilled and usually the local education institutions specialize in training them and researching better methods and such).

I could go on and on with this stuff but fact of the matter is that if you take more advanced economics courses (especially ones that follow Krugmans new trade theory and new economic geography theories) your world will be turned upside down.
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