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post #431 of 616
Bulldozer is going to be 32nm, not sure exactly when they started working on it but I am sure they had to scrap it and change design at least once.

Ivy Bridge is a die shrink of Sandy Bridge and should be out next year sometime.
    
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Considering how long bulldozer has been in development and the fact that it was originally slated for 45nm release I'd say its its been pushed back a bit.
So Bulldozer is what Phenom II should have been?
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post #433 of 616
Die shrinks don't necessarily mean a complete redesign.
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post #434 of 616
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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
So Bulldozer is what Phenom II should have been?
No idea on that. Phenom II is just a die shrink and improvement over Phenom I.

I do know that AMD has had some very rough times due to many things including Intels shady business practices.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2635

I believe they also won some sort creative freedom from Intel in their lawsuit as well. I can't remember what is was, but my mind is telling me it had something to do with AMD having to design chips while Intel watched almost.

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Die shrinks don't necessarily mean a complete redesign.
No indeed not, but I think the point was more so directed towards when they were trying to release it at first.
    
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post #435 of 616
Stupid thread is stupid
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post #436 of 616
I hope BD will be good. I plan to go with AMD on my next build... but only time will tell.

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AMD is always at least a step behind intel
Hoping this is sarcasm and not ignorance & stupidity.
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post #437 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Bulldozer is going to be 32nm, not sure exactly when they started working on it but I am sure they had to scrap it and change design at least once.
I m sure a AMD 32 nm fabrication process is superior to a Intel 32 nm fabrication process.
   
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dromihetes View Post
I m sure a AMD 32 nm fabrication process is superior to a Intel 32 nm fabrication process.
How? Do I sense fanboyism...?
post #439 of 616
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Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth View Post
The way I see it, this can only go one of two ways. Either Bulldozer will beat Sandy Bridge for near the same price, or it will lose for a significant reduction in price.

I'm saying this because of AMD's current financial situation and the economy that we're living in. In my opinion, it wouldn't make good business sense for it to pan out any other way. Especially if AMD wants to make a splash, and take back any of the market.
THIS... i definitely agree, the only thing that they may gain a upper hand on is the far less mainstream markets such as the server community. I highly doubt that bulldozer will give a huge huge performance gain with it's desktop processor lineups. If they do then i see them absconding their niche in the performance/value market.

It just doesn't make any sense to release a more powerful setup only because i am assuming doing so will result in a higher manufacturing cost and will also up the retail price. I don't see it being a smart business decision because the demand is just not there. I hope it gives a good 20-30% boost over the current sb. I also think it will be slightly more expensive.
Edited by badatgames18 - 4/21/11 at 4:54am
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Originally Posted by General_Jaja View Post
How? Do I sense fanboyism...?
Look at the actual fabrication process ,they ve optimzed it to the bone.
Don t ask me how they do it ,they simply get more out of the same "nm" combining all kinds of teks.
Document yourself about the way AMD optimizes the silicon chips by using various tekniques.
   
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