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    No, I don't think so...
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post #451 of 616
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Originally Posted by Red Rabbit View Post
There's no chance that it's going to fail, it may not do quite as well as SB, but in no way is it going to fail.

It'll be great for competition if nothing else.
This thought process confuses me.

Just because Sandy Bridge is the best now, that does not mean it can't be beat.

I get the feeling that people think that Intel has a golden egg or something...

Seriously, people need to just wait until solid information comes out before they start saying what's going to happen.
Edited by SectorNine50 - 4/21/11 at 10:41am
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post #452 of 616
Well w'eve seen some leaked benchmarks which may or may not hold some salt and if they are true then yes, bulldozer will trump sandybridge. However, how AMD prices the series will secondly determine if its a win or fail IMHO.
Edited by luckypunk - 4/21/11 at 1:05pm
post #453 of 616
B NEGATIVE, let me point out some gaping flaws in your post.

The i5-2500 will overclock higher on the stock Intel cooler than a 1100T will with aftermarket cooling.

AMD may have came out with x64, but Intel still uses it... Why? Because if AMD didn't let Intel use their x64 instruction set then Intel wouldn't let AMD use their x86 instruction set which the x64 chips are based on.

Both companies have occupied the same price points. If Intel wasn't here or was slower you'd be paying $1000 for the 1100T, because they could.

The AMD Athlon 64 chips were 130nm at first but occupied the same price points as their 90nm brothers.

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Some felt initially that the X2 would cause market confusion with regard to price points since the new processor was targeted at the same "enthusiast," US$350 and above market[29] already occupied by AMD's existing socket 939 Athlon 64s.[30] AMD's official breakdown of the chips placed the Athlon X2 aimed at a segment they called the "prosumer", along with digital media fans.[24] The Athlon 64 was targeted at the mainstream consumer, and the Athlon FX at gamers. The Sempron budget processor was targeted at value-conscious consumers.[31] Following the launch of the Athlon 64 X2, AMD surpassed Intel in US retail sales for a period of time, although Intel retained overall market leadership because of its exclusive relationships with direct sellers such as Dell.
So easily those who buy bargain forget their beloved company once sold products worthy of higher price tags. The same company that was manufacturing on 130nm at the same price points is now sending out slower, less competitive 45nm chips at the same price points only reduced due to lack of speed compared to faster Intel chips.
    
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post #454 of 616
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Originally Posted by SectorNine50 View Post
This thought process confuses me.

Just because Sandy Bridge is the best now, that does not mean it can't be beat.

I get the feeling that people think that Intel has a golden egg or something...

Seriously, people need to just wait until solid information comes out before they start saying what's going to happen.
I said it may not do as well. To be honest I think Bulldozer will in fact be better than Sandy Bridge, but it's only just speculation until we see some actual benchmarks out.
post #455 of 616
The thread title should be changed from "Is Bulldozer going to fail vs Sandy Bridge?" to "Will Bulldozer own Sandy Bridge ?" or "BallaTheFeared vs AMD" .
   
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post #456 of 616
Until retail and actual forum members start posting results we will not know

It would be nice to see AMD knock one out of the park ...

Time will tell .....

As fro preliminary conjecture, I don't hold any value on pre-release reviews since the MSI and Gigabite dibacle of sending out binned cherries of the Lightning and SOC to suck unsespecting overclockers into buying gpu's that could not reproduce pre release results ....


So we wait until retail.... I suspect it has always been this way

Reguardless of the outcome I will probably buy one just to play around with
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post #457 of 616
If bulldozer really is gonna out beat i7 then it's probably gonna be an expensive cpu like the i7s but well find out soon enough.
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post #458 of 616
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The thread title should be changed from "Is Bulldozer going to fail vs Sandy Bridge?" to "Will Bulldozer own Sandy Bridge ?" or "BallaTheFeared vs AMD" .
The market is better when both chip companies are competitive.

The GPU bracket is priced a lot better because the only gpu Nvidia produced this time around that really stands out is the 580, and because of that its way over-priced at $500.

However the rest of their offerings are much better purchases because AMD put out some decent hardware that are competitive with the 480/570 gpus. Everything below that packs incredible price vs performance. Whereas when Nvidia first came out smoking the 5000 series cards the 470 was priced at $350 which is over-priced for its performance. I picked two up for $182.50 each because of competition.

We don't need a chip company to only have bargain basement cpus. We need two companies that are neck and neck and put out amazing chips in the sub $300 market because thats where the money is for both.
    
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1st of all. If anyone is going to take you seriously.

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Clever.

The mans from Dacia, if you have any idea where that is.

How's your Romanian?

...I bet you THINK you speak English...

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The i5-2500 will overclock higher on the stock Intel cooler than a 1100T will with aftermarket cooling.
Not according to HWBOT:






But on a more serious note, Thuban will do 4.5Ghz on water at 45nm, I can't see BD being any slower than SB on air, and it could far surpass it in the hands of the HWBOT community, since even a crappy old 1100T does


Edited by purpleannex - 4/21/11 at 3:02pm
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Hoooly crap.

6.9Ghz?!

Liquid Nitrogen cooling... I like it... Haha
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