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post #491 of 616
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Originally Posted by F-U-B-A-R View Post
AMD IS GONNA BULLDOZE INTELS BRIDGE

We all know it... now its just time for us to admit it.
before new years, I was using a P4 640 3.2GHz, and before last Sept. I was using a P4 520 (or about that) 2.8 GHz for about 3years with a x1300pro

What a fool I was, I had plenty of money 5yrs ago, but was just that out of the loop


So now after getting back in and seeing the i3-i7s and now the SB mostly winning in benches and games...

I am worried BD won't beat SB, but I'll get 1 in my m4a89
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Originally Posted by Mit Namso View Post
before new years, I was using a P4 640 3.2GHz, and before last Sept. I was using a P4 520 (or about that) 2.8 GHz for about 3years with a x1300pro

What a fool I was, I had plenty of money 5yrs ago, but was just that out of the loop


So now after getting back in and seeing the i3-i7s and now the SB mostly winning in benches and games...

I am worried BD won't beat SB, but I'll get 1 in my m4a89
According to the benches and leaks... BD is going to be a 12-16 core processor on the 32nm SOI design. If this is true, I think that it's ridiculous overkill.

But just the right idea to get Intel sweating.
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The sever version, yes.

The desktop version will have 4, 6 and 8 core versions.
    
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
The sever version, yes.

The desktop version will have 4, 6 and 8 core versions.
That's what I was thinking. 12 cores is insane for a desktop.

Thanks for the clarification. I had to go back and re-read it.
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Haven't you heard? They're going to put Bulldozer in the Phantom 2 gaming console to be revealed at E3 of this year.
    
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I gave up waiting, and went to SB. For people that don't think its a jump try something CPU intensive like FSX I went from 20-30FPS on a 965 @ 3.8 to over 70-80 on SB @ Stock the margin is huge in CPU intensive work. Gaming not so much. I do tons of video encoding and GFX work and it is really night and day the boost I got.

I do own stock in AMD so don't call me a fanboy cause I am not. This is all ridiculous we have heard about this architecture for years now. I was looking forward to it when I bought my FX before I went to my 965. And still nothing. We have tiny amounts of info on it here and there but thats it.

I sat back and watched the I7 series roll AMDs Phenom II line up, and kept my fingers crossed, and still nothing. Here we are in April waiting for an Arch that was announced 5 years ago by AMD and is still no where to be found.

I hope BD does well and my stocks go up. But for me I am tired of waiting for this end all processor that never seems to show. Love when people challenge anyone for ripping on AMD. Every time someone says something negative its because its on speculation. As far as I am concerned everything AMD has said for years about the performance of this chip is speculation after 5 years of waiting. Ya the guys who are working on it know what it can do but AMD is so tight lipped about it. I have never heard AMD come out and hint at the fact it will challenge Intel in the speed ring period. They come out and say its an efficient new arch not that it is faster than anything on the market seems the fan boys keep thinking thats what it will be. AMD likes playing in the low cost high vol sector and I dont think this will change that.

As far as I am concerned I think AMD has held back for so long they keep trying to catch Intel and by the time they do Intel has something new up their sleeve.

I love how people keep saying cores cores cores nothing in gaming even maxes a quad so who cares if it has 8 or 50. We all know efficiency and clock speed is the game for 90% of us here. Not cores.
Edited by Hawk777th - 4/21/11 at 10:22pm
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post #497 of 616
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Originally Posted by Hawk777th View Post
I gave up waiting, and went to SB. For people that don't think its a jump try something CPU intensive like FSX I went from 20-30FPS on a 965 @ 3.8 to over 70-80 on SB @ Stock the margin is huge in CPU intensive work. Gaming not so much. I do tons of video encoding and GFX work and it is really night and day the boost I got.

I do own stock in AMD so don't call me a fanboy cause I am not. This is all ridiculous we have heard about this architecture for years now. I was looking forward to it when I bought my FX before I went to my 965. And still nothing. We have tiny amounts of info on it here and there but thats it.

I sat back and watched the I7 series roll AMDs Phenom II line up, and kept my fingers crossed, and still nothing. Here we are in April waiting for an Arch that was announced 5 years ago by AMD and is still no where to be found.

I hope BD does well and my stocks go up. But for me I am tired of waiting for this end all processor that never seems to show. Love when people challenge anyone for ripping on AMD. Every time someone says something negative its because its on speculation. As far as I am concerned everything AMD has said for years about the performance of this chip is speculation after 5 years of waiting. Ya the guys who are working on it know what it can do but AMD is so tight lipped about it. I have never heard AMD come out and hint at the fact it will challenge Intel in the speed ring period. They come out and say its an efficient new arch not that it is faster than anything on the market seems the fan boys keep thinking thats what it will be. AMD likes playing in the low cost high vol sector and I dont think this will change that.

As far as I am concerned I think AMD has held back for so long they keep trying to catch Intel and by the time they do Intel has something new up their sleeve.

I love how people keep saying cores cores cores nothing in gaming even maxes a quad so who cares if it has 8 or 50. We all know efficiency and clock speed is the game for 90% of us here. Not cores.
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This about sums up the whole AMD vs. Intel battle. I wish I could sig this, ALL OF THIS.

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^this

Yeah, the longer I have to wait, the less interesting BD becomes and the sexier SB looks.
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I love how people keep saying cores cores cores nothing in gaming even maxes a quad so who cares if it has 8 or 50. We all know efficiency and clock speed is the game for 90% of us here. Not cores.

Nice post Hawk. I have to agree with this sentiment as well. I don't care how many cores it has. It needs to perform. Most tests show that after the 3rd core, processing in gaming increases for the 4th are negligible.

To make another point, A few years back I had a hypotheses that essentially processor manufactures would hit a wall in production. Be it obvious now. They can't increase the throughput of the processor core anymore without a complete radical redesign. They need to make the proc capable of running faster. Not throw more cores on it. But it seems this is the "fix" that the companies are throwing at us. 4GHz is no longer enough. I wanna see a proc run 24/7 on a higher clock (factory). 4 cores are great to have, but I don't care if it has 8 cores. Those other 4 are being underutilized and are a negligible performance enhancement. Instead of seeing how many cores you can squeeze into a die, lets see how much more durable and quicker you can make these. (which means higher OC's in the enthusiast community )
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Nice post Hawk. I have to agree with this sentiment as well. I don't care how many cores it has. It needs to perform. Most tests show that after the 3rd core, processing in gaming increases for the 4th are negligible.

To make another point, A few years back I had a hypotheses that essentially processor manufactures would hit a wall in production. Be it obvious now. They can't increase the throughput of the processor core anymore without a complete radical redesign. They need to make the proc capable of running faster. Not throw more cores on it. But it seems this is the "fix" that the companies are throwing at us. 4GHz is no longer enough. I wanna see a proc run 24/7 on a higher clock (factory). 4 cores are great to have, but I don't care if it has 8 cores. Those other 4 are being underutilized and are a negligible performance enhancement. Instead of seeing how many cores you can squeeze into a die, lets see how much more durable and quicker you can make these. (which means higher OC's in the enthusiast community )
I agree it feels like when the PIII ran into the 1Ghz barrier and they couldnt keep them cool. Everyone sat at like 950 or 866Mhz till finally Intel cracked it.
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