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Poll Results: Is Bulldozer going to fail vs Sandy Bridge?

 
  • 32% (289)
    Yes, it will.-
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    No, I don't think so...
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post #51 of 616
how did sandy bridge fail? let me count the ways.

1. DX10.1 GPU? Even AMD's low-end fusion is DX11. Wait 'til Llano launches Q2. =)
2. hardware-DRM/embedded. remote kill switch for the fools who dont know better.
3. $1BILLION chipset epic fail.
4. non-existent LINUX GPU driver.
5. can't compile a linux kernel withour CRASHING. it crashes to black. dead.

five will do for now.

tick tock slipped, and intel rushed it.
sandy bridge blew up in their face.

the truth.
post #52 of 616
I was without a i5-2500k for several days.

I could have hung it up and gotten a used AMD system and another gtx 470 for close to the same price, but I didn't...

Know why?

Because the Phenom II can't handle SLI, they can't even really handle a single high end card in a lot of older titles.

I've already seen the bottleneck with a single card first hand, and I saw it when I was offered an AMD 1055t based system + a gtx 470 in a swap, the scores and results were exactly what I feared, horrible sli scaling, terrible scores compared to even a single gtx 470 on a sandy bridge chip.

As I said before, AMD is great if you're playing older games, or are ok with your $300-$500 single gpu being bottlenecked, but for the rest of us who spend twice, or three times as much on gpus as the cpu in the first place it's just not really acceptable.
    
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post #53 of 616
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how did sandy bridge fail? let me count the ways.

1. DX10.1 GPU? Even AMD's low-end fusion is DX11. Wait 'til Llano launches Q2. =)
2. hardware-DRM/embedded. remote kill switch for the fools who dont know better.
3. $1BILLION chipset epic fail.
4. non-existent LINUX GPU driver.
5. can't compile a linux kernel withour CRASHING. it crashes to black. dead.

five will do for now.

tick tock slipped, and intel rushed it.
sandy bridge blew up in their face.

the truth.
Actually read about the "DRM/Kill switch" before talking and making yourself look like an idiot.

And 1 billion dollars is chump change to intel, the hurt reputation is far worse than that petty amount.

Lets count the pluses

1-Much more energy efficient than any other high end cpu out there.
2-Highest IPC of any consumer cpu yet.
3-Highest 24/7 Overclocks you can get anywhere.
4-Best price to performance chip released in a long while.

I would say those far outweigh your petty negatives.
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Seem's to be a quad core Zambezi is faster than a 4 core Sandy bridge. But take this info with a teen tiny grain of salt. If its true, WOW.
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post #55 of 616
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Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
how did sandy bridge fail? let me count the ways.

1. DX10.1 GPU? Even AMD's low-end fusion is DX11. Wait 'til Llano launches Q2. =) Who cares about an embedded GPU when you can have a real graphics card to play games with?

2. hardware-DRM/embedded. remote kill switch for the fools who dont know better. Unless you're a pirate planning on stealing movies from Intel's Insider service, this doesn't apply to you.

3. $1BILLION chipset epic fail. Chipset is fixed, and it's not like Intel can't afford it, and they do have Insurance for such matters. This amounts to less than 1 percent of what Intel is worth. Only the AMD fanboys are blowing this issue out of proportion. Use a SATA controller if you need extra ports until you receive a FREE replacement motherboard.

4. non-existent LINUX GPU driver. Who cares about Linux.

5. can't compile a linux kernel withour CRASHING. it crashes to black. dead. See answer 4

five will do for now.

tick tock slipped, and intel rushed it.
sandy bridge blew up in their face.

the truth.

Sandy Bridge will be available before we see any sign of Bulldozer, and it will pick up right where it left off. Check out my previous post for SB performance benchmarks, the pros far outweigh your "negatives"
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
I was without a i5-2500k for several days.

I could have hung it up and gotten a used AMD system and another gtx 470 for close to the same price, but I didn't...

Know why?

Because the Phenom II can't handle SLI, they can't even really handle a single high end card in a lot of older titles.

I've already seen the bottleneck with a single card first hand, and I saw it when I was offered an AMD 1055t based system + a gtx 470 in a swap, the scores and results were exactly what I feared, horrible sli scaling, terrible scores compared to even a single gtx 470 on a sandy bridge chip.

As I said before, AMD is great if you're playing older games, or are ok with your $300-$500 single gpu being bottlenecked, but for the rest of us who spend twice, or three times as much on gpus as the cpu in the first place it's just not really acceptable.
This coming from someone who has tested BOTH platforms.

There's nothing better than real world users to provide us feedback of their experiences. I do believe that if his 1090T performed well, he wouldn't be shy to share such experiences.

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Edited by 2010rig - 2/14/11 at 2:59pm
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post #56 of 616
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IF those benchmarks are true. How reliable is a site called "rumorpedia"?

Until I see real world benchmarks from Bulldozer, everything else is speculation.
Yet you quote an article titled
Quote:
Rumor: Ivy Bridge to offer 20% boost over Sandy Bridge
to prove Ivy Bridges increased performance?

...Some people.
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post #57 of 616
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Yet you quote an article titled to prove Ivy Bridges increased performance?

...Some people.
Thank you for pointing out my double standard.

It was in response to this "speculation":

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Originally Posted by knoxy_14 View Post
isnt ivy bridge only suppose to be like 10% to 15% better than sandy bridge? and how many years was it before they changed the architecture for AMD when comparing the phenom IIs to the i7 quads with HT?
Seeing as we have seen Sandy Bridge QUAD CORE benchmarks, 20% is not far fetched, considering IB will provide 6-8 core processors. 20% is a rather conservative estimate of performance increase.
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post #58 of 616
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This coming from someone who has tested BOTH platforms.
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heres the feedback in video by another end-user.
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Seem's to be a quad core Zambezi is faster than a 4 core Sandy bridge. But take this info with a teen tiny grain of salt. If its true, WOW.
That's probably a i7-2600K running hyperthreading against a 4 core BD as well! LOL
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Thank you for pointing out my double standard.

It was in response to this:



Seeing as we have seen Sandy Bridge QUAD CORE benchmarks, 20% is not far fetched, considering IB will provide 6-8 core processors.
If an 8 core IB has only 20% more throughput compared to a 4 core SB you can consider that an enormous failure.
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