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post #541 of 616
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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
Oh yeah,because losing profits to a company that already makes boatloads of money from marketing schemes and OEM bullying tactics is good.
Only reason a 2500K is cheap,is because they get higher yield out of a smaller process which already exists (Core architecture shrink).
Actually they just occupied the same price points they did before with the 1156 chips, and the same price point they occupied in the last gen of chips as well.

Its a cycle, not sure why that is so hard for you to understand.

If anything the i5-2500k broke the mold since its the first unlocked chip that didn't carry a huge price hike with it.
    
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By removing options from you choice view you can only hurt yourself in the end.

Say for instance you had a chance to win $100 if you guessed the correct number between 1 and 10. If you had two chances to start, but removed one yourself, you will have less of a chance to win than if you had not removed the second chance.
Judging by the way you talk about the Bulldozer you are the one removing options for yourself .
You are talking about a not yet released product as if it will be a big failure though you know almost nothing about it
   
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post #543 of 616
No, I haven't.

Carry on with the delusions.
    
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No, I haven't.

Carry on with the delusions.
What about this post ?!

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I'm hoping Nvidia can replace AMD in the CPU race, as AMD hasn't been able to push performance for years now.

Perhaps Nvidias ARM products will step up the process, and maybe we'll see something other than x86-64 chips someday.
Smells like a prejudgement to me.
   
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What about it?
    
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If anything the i5-2500k broke the mold since its the first unlocked chip that didn't carry a huge price hike with it.
Not true. That honor belongs to the China-only Pentium E6500K (not counting earlier Pentiums that didn't have locked multis). The next two non-$1000 unlocked processors Intel released were the Core i5-655K (which the i5-2500K replaced) and the i7-875K (predecessor to the i7-2600K). Intel was probably testing the waters with those chips.
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What about it?
It s related to this :

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By removing options from you choice view you can only hurt yourself in the end.
   
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What about this post ?!



Smells like a prejudgement to me.
Lulz!
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Not true. That honor belongs to the China-only Pentium E6500K (not counting earlier Pentiums that didn't have locked multis). The next two non-$1000 unlocked processors Intel released were the Core i5-655K (which the i5-2500K replaced) and the i7-875K (predecessor to the i7-2600K). Intel was probably testing the waters with those chips.
Wasn't both the 655k and 875k far more expensive than their locked counter-parts?

I thought for instance the 655k (2c 4t) was more expensive than even the i5-760 which was a better chip.


To the other two, reading comprehension woes. My post was past tense and did not include the mystical beast known as Bulldozer.
    
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Wasn't both the 655k and 875k far more expensive than their locked counter-parts?

I thought for instance the 655k (2c 4t) was more expensive than even the i5-760 which was a better chip.
Around $20-50 price premium over the i5-650 and i7-860. It's actually kinda funny. When the i7-875K was released, it was cheaper than the i7-870 which was around $500 at the time. I reckon Intel was just trying to figure how much people are willing to pay for an unlocked chip.

Intel's LGA-1156 Core i5 line-up was completely out of whack. They released the i5-750 because of Deneb. If not for that, I think the $150-200 price point would have been occupied solely by Clarkdale. Lynnfield made Clarkdales in the $200 range an awful value but Intel still needed an IGP solution at that price point.

I reckon part of the issue is also a holdover of Core 2 pricing structure. We basically had:
E8400 = i5-650
E8500 = i5-660/661
E8600 = i5-670
Q9500 = i5-750
Q9550 = i7-860/920

The pricing scheme wasn't much of a problem with Core 2 because the quad-core Yorkfields usually ship with lower clock rates and can't overclock as high as dual-core Wolfdales. The problem is, with Turbo Boost, the i5-750 Lynnfield was better than the i5 Clarkdales all-around, in both single-threaded and multi-threaded tasks and are known to reach 4 GHz clocks.

I guess Intel has mostly solved the product hierarchy issue with Sandy Bridge. At least now, barring the 35W TDP i5-2390T, all i5 processors are quad-core with integrated graphics.
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