Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Is Bulldozer going to fail vs Sandy Bridge?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Is Bulldozer going to fail vs Sandy Bridge? - Page 60  

Poll Results: Is Bulldozer going to fail vs Sandy Bridge?

 
  • 32% (289)
    Yes, it will.-
  • 67% (606)
    No, I don't think so...
895 Total Votes  
post #591 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
If frequencies don't mean much then why go fanboy spamming that the SB does 5Ghz?
Everything else you said is pure speculation.
AMD is well aware their Phenom II can hit 4Ghz,their BD chip,probably a bit more than 4Ghz because it is a 32nm chip. The Engineering sample with the spec table screenshot a few pages back shows the CPU's with up to a 3.2Ghz,clock,and a 3.7Ghz Turbo Core.
Because clock for clock SB and 1156 and 1366 are faster than Phenom II. Clock speed only means something when we know how fast it is per clock cycle. Why do I have to explain the basic principles of how cpus work to you all the time?

Everything everyone is saying is pure speculation, do you not understand that?

Unofficial, unconfirmed charts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pale_neon View Post
what exactly am i wrong about?

I never said it wasn't. I said "that intel has put in their newest chips". Chips being the plural noun, newest being the adjective.
First read, then question.


Jesse I am not bending logic. A 4 GHz Phenom II is generally slower than a 3.2Ghz 1366 chip. Hence clock speeds don't mean much without knowing how fast the cpu is per cycle.

People have reached over 8GHz on LN with Pentium 4s, that does mean they're fast.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P8P67 PRO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 
GraphicsRAMRAMRAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT G-Skill A-Data G-Skill 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
A-Data Crucial M4 64GB + 1TB F3 Spinpoint $155 LS/DL DVD RW $?? Windows 8 64-bit "Epic Registry" Edition 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS 21.5 1920x1080 2ms $135 CORSAIR HX850 $120 Mother Earth $free 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P8P67 PRO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 
GraphicsRAMRAMRAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT G-Skill A-Data G-Skill 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
A-Data Crucial M4 64GB + 1TB F3 Spinpoint $155 LS/DL DVD RW $?? Windows 8 64-bit "Epic Registry" Edition 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS 21.5 1920x1080 2ms $135 CORSAIR HX850 $120 Mother Earth $free 
  hide details  
post #592 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
First read, then question.
Great NON-answer. I've already read that thread, long ago. Still doesn't answer my question. What exactly am I wrong about?
Edited by pale_neon - 4/23/11 at 11:32pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R eVGA GTX 560 Ti 4GB Patriot Viper II DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2.1V 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 64MB 7200 RPM Lite-On 22X DVD+/-RW XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Samsung UN46B8000 240Hz LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Natural Elite PC Power & Cooling 750W Silencer Antec Nine Hundred Logitech G9 
Mouse Pad
Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R eVGA GTX 560 Ti 4GB Patriot Viper II DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2.1V 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 64MB 7200 RPM Lite-On 22X DVD+/-RW XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Samsung UN46B8000 240Hz LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Natural Elite PC Power & Cooling 750W Silencer Antec Nine Hundred Logitech G9 
Mouse Pad
Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
post #593 of 616
Is it annoying?

Try to remember that when you make general statements that hold no merit in this context.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P8P67 PRO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 
GraphicsRAMRAMRAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT G-Skill A-Data G-Skill 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
A-Data Crucial M4 64GB + 1TB F3 Spinpoint $155 LS/DL DVD RW $?? Windows 8 64-bit "Epic Registry" Edition 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS 21.5 1920x1080 2ms $135 CORSAIR HX850 $120 Mother Earth $free 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P8P67 PRO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 
GraphicsRAMRAMRAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT G-Skill A-Data G-Skill 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
A-Data Crucial M4 64GB + 1TB F3 Spinpoint $155 LS/DL DVD RW $?? Windows 8 64-bit "Epic Registry" Edition 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS 21.5 1920x1080 2ms $135 CORSAIR HX850 $120 Mother Earth $free 
  hide details  
post #594 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesse^_^ View Post
[/b]

balla, you can't bend the logic to suit you
qft.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Because clock for clock SB and 1156 and 1366 are faster than Phenom II. Clock speed only means something when we know how fast it is per clock cycle. Why do I have to explain the basic principles of how cpus work to you all the time?

Everything everyone is saying is pure speculation, do you not understand that?

Unofficial, unconfirmed charts.



First read, then question.


Jesse I am not bending logic. A 4 GHz Phenom II is generally slower than a 3.2Ghz 1366 chip. Hence clock speeds don't mean much without knowing how fast the cpu is per cycle.

People have reached over 8GHz on LN with Pentium 4s, that does mean they're fast.
Facepalm.JPG
Yeah,unconfirmed,unofficial charts,yet like the fanboy you are have tried to make them seem official and then say BD will fail. And now you try to cover your own butt again,but pretty much say Phenom II sucks and bend logic so that clock speeds matter for you. A 4Ghz Phenom II is not slower than a 3.2Ghz 1366 chip.
Not a fanboy you say? Just look at your avatar.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pale_neon View Post
Ok, considering this is your third reply with no actual answer you're either
  1. trolling
  2. realized you're wrong & trying to save face by acting like a smartass
Like that is anything new...
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/23/11 at 11:47pm
Moar cores!
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8320 @ 4.0Ghz/4.2Ghz turbo gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 rev. 4.0 Gigabyte Nvida GTX 770OC 2GB/ Gigabyte 970 G1 G... Gskill Sniper 1866Mhz 8GB (4GB x 2) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB WD Black 1TB Asus 24X CM Hyper 212Evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home X64 HP 22BW 21.5" LED-IPS CM Storm Trigger/MX Brown Corsair TX 650V2 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM HAF922 Logitech G500S Steelseries QCK Mini Asus Xonar DX 7.1 
  hide details  
Moar cores!
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8320 @ 4.0Ghz/4.2Ghz turbo gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 rev. 4.0 Gigabyte Nvida GTX 770OC 2GB/ Gigabyte 970 G1 G... Gskill Sniper 1866Mhz 8GB (4GB x 2) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB WD Black 1TB Asus 24X CM Hyper 212Evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home X64 HP 22BW 21.5" LED-IPS CM Storm Trigger/MX Brown Corsair TX 650V2 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM HAF922 Logitech G500S Steelseries QCK Mini Asus Xonar DX 7.1 
  hide details  
post #595 of 616
Teehee.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P8P67 PRO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 
GraphicsRAMRAMRAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT G-Skill A-Data G-Skill 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
A-Data Crucial M4 64GB + 1TB F3 Spinpoint $155 LS/DL DVD RW $?? Windows 8 64-bit "Epic Registry" Edition 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS 21.5 1920x1080 2ms $135 CORSAIR HX850 $120 Mother Earth $free 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P8P67 PRO NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 
GraphicsRAMRAMRAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT G-Skill A-Data G-Skill 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
A-Data Crucial M4 64GB + 1TB F3 Spinpoint $155 LS/DL DVD RW $?? Windows 8 64-bit "Epic Registry" Edition 
MonitorPowerCase
ASUS 21.5 1920x1080 2ms $135 CORSAIR HX850 $120 Mother Earth $free 
  hide details  
post #596 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Is it annoying?

Try to remember that when you make general statements that hold no merit in this context.
Ok, considering this is your third reply with no actual answer you're either
  1. trolling
  2. realized you're wrong & trying to save face by acting like a smartass
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R eVGA GTX 560 Ti 4GB Patriot Viper II DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2.1V 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 64MB 7200 RPM Lite-On 22X DVD+/-RW XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Samsung UN46B8000 240Hz LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Natural Elite PC Power & Cooling 750W Silencer Antec Nine Hundred Logitech G9 
Mouse Pad
Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R eVGA GTX 560 Ti 4GB Patriot Viper II DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2.1V 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 64MB 7200 RPM Lite-On 22X DVD+/-RW XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Samsung UN46B8000 240Hz LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Natural Elite PC Power & Cooling 750W Silencer Antec Nine Hundred Logitech G9 
Mouse Pad
Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
post #597 of 616
Balla should really consider changing his name to BellaTheTroll. X_X
Stock
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 550 - [3.1GHz] Asus M4A78LT-M Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 @stock Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
1x 1TB HDD & 2x 100GB SSDs RAID0 Scythe Katana 4 Win 7 64bit Logitech K200 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair TX850W Chieftec Design TT Theron 
  hide details  
Stock
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 550 - [3.1GHz] Asus M4A78LT-M Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 @stock Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
1x 1TB HDD & 2x 100GB SSDs RAID0 Scythe Katana 4 Win 7 64bit Logitech K200 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair TX850W Chieftec Design TT Theron 
  hide details  
post #598 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by pale_neon View Post
Ok, considering this is your third reply with no actual answer you're either
  1. trolling
  2. realized you're wrong & trying to save face by acting like a smartass



He doesnt understand....Balla The Feeble gets his jollies like this,he is pure bridge owning troll. Every thread i have seen him reply to goes along these lines.

i still looking thru the intel side of the site to see if he actually contributes over there or is just bullied.....
Edited by B NEGATIVE - 4/23/11 at 11:52pm
MILSPEC II
(8 items)
 
| LUMO |
(6 items)
 
CLoS3 IMPACT
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
5820k X99m WS 980ti strix 980ti strix 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
KLEVV Cras DDR4  3tb Red Corsair 600w SFX + 450w SFX Caselabs BH4 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4970k Z97 Gryphon GTX 680 x2 Crucial Ballistix Elite 16Gb 
PowerCase
Be Quiet Dark Power 850 InWin D Frame Mini 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770k ASUS Impact ITX R9 290 Gskill Trident 2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCase
Samsung EV0 250 x2 WD black Loop.....oh yes...... Caselabs S3....modded 
  hide details  
MILSPEC II
(8 items)
 
| LUMO |
(6 items)
 
CLoS3 IMPACT
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
5820k X99m WS 980ti strix 980ti strix 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
KLEVV Cras DDR4  3tb Red Corsair 600w SFX + 450w SFX Caselabs BH4 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4970k Z97 Gryphon GTX 680 x2 Crucial Ballistix Elite 16Gb 
PowerCase
Be Quiet Dark Power 850 InWin D Frame Mini 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770k ASUS Impact ITX R9 290 Gskill Trident 2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCase
Samsung EV0 250 x2 WD black Loop.....oh yes...... Caselabs S3....modded 
  hide details  
post #599 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Davidsen View Post
Balla should really consider changing his name to BellaTheTroll. X_X
Inb4 "I'm not a troll,you butthurt AMD fanbois!
LULZ AMD ARE TEH SLOW IN BENCHMARKS. EH EM DEEZ ARE TEH SUX0R."
Quote:
Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post


He doesnt understand....Balla The Feeble gets his jollies like this,he is pure bridge owning troll. Every thread i have seen him reply to goes along these lines.
^This.... Well,not every thread...
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/23/11 at 11:53pm
Moar cores!
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8320 @ 4.0Ghz/4.2Ghz turbo gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 rev. 4.0 Gigabyte Nvida GTX 770OC 2GB/ Gigabyte 970 G1 G... Gskill Sniper 1866Mhz 8GB (4GB x 2) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB WD Black 1TB Asus 24X CM Hyper 212Evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home X64 HP 22BW 21.5" LED-IPS CM Storm Trigger/MX Brown Corsair TX 650V2 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM HAF922 Logitech G500S Steelseries QCK Mini Asus Xonar DX 7.1 
  hide details  
Moar cores!
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8320 @ 4.0Ghz/4.2Ghz turbo gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 rev. 4.0 Gigabyte Nvida GTX 770OC 2GB/ Gigabyte 970 G1 G... Gskill Sniper 1866Mhz 8GB (4GB x 2) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB WD Black 1TB Asus 24X CM Hyper 212Evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home X64 HP 22BW 21.5" LED-IPS CM Storm Trigger/MX Brown Corsair TX 650V2 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM HAF922 Logitech G500S Steelseries QCK Mini Asus Xonar DX 7.1 
  hide details  
post #600 of 616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
qft.
Facepalm.JPG
Yeah,unconfirmed,unofficial charts,yet like the fanboy you are have tried to make them seem official and then say BD will fail. And now you try to cover your own butt again,but pretty much say Phenom II sucks and bend logic so that clock speeds matter for you. A 4Ghz Phenom II is not slower than a 3.2Ghz 1366 chip.


Like that is anything new...
really?



sorry closest 1366 i could find was this one
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5 2500K AsRock extreme4 p67 GTX 470 SLI 8gb Gskill 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial 128gb,WD black 1tb, Seagate 500gb windows 7 64 bit Enterprise U2311H Razor 
PowerCaseAudioAudio
Antec HCP 1200 Corsair 800D xonar DX M-Audio BX5a 
  hide details  
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5 2500K AsRock extreme4 p67 GTX 470 SLI 8gb Gskill 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial 128gb,WD black 1tb, Seagate 500gb windows 7 64 bit Enterprise U2311H Razor 
PowerCaseAudioAudio
Antec HCP 1200 Corsair 800D xonar DX M-Audio BX5a 
  hide details  
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
This thread is locked  
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Is Bulldozer going to fail vs Sandy Bridge?