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    Yes, it will.-
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    No, I don't think so...
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post #61 of 616
Bulldozer will just end up competing with current 1155/1156/1366.
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post #62 of 616
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Originally Posted by purpleannex View Post
If an 8 core IB has only 20% more throughput compared to a 4 core SB you can consider that an enormous failure.
If you read my Ninja edit, you will see that I said that 20% is rather CONSERVATIVE.

These aren't AMD's Quad Core & 6 Core processors we are talking about here.
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post #63 of 616
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
I was without a i5-2500k for several days.

I could have hung it up and gotten a used AMD system and another gtx 470 for close to the same price, but I didn't...

Know why?

Because the Phenom II can't handle SLI, they can't even really handle a single high end card in a lot of older titles.

I've already seen the bottleneck with a single card first hand, and I saw it when I was offered an AMD 1055t based system + a gtx 470 in a swap, the scores and results were exactly what I feared, horrible sli scaling, terrible scores compared to even a single gtx 470 on a sandy bridge chip.

As I said before, AMD is great if you're playing older games, or are ok with your $300-$500 single gpu being bottlenecked, but for the rest of us who spend twice, or three times as much on gpus as the cpu in the first place it's just not really acceptable.
http://benchmarkextreme.com/Articles...01100T/P3.html

Doesn't seem that bad? Yeah it'll be slower then Intel post Core 2, but that's not really a bottleneck. That's just an older processor not being able to keep up with a new more powerful one.

The cards used were more powerful then a 470 as well. Sandy Bridge is amazing, but that doesn't mean everything else sucks.
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post #64 of 616
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Originally Posted by Horsemama1956 View Post
http://benchmarkextreme.com/Articles...01100T/P3.html

Doesn't seem that bad? Yeah it'll be slower then Intel post Core 2, but that's not really a bottleneck. That's just an older processor not being able to keep up with a new more powerful one.

The cards used were more powerful then a 470 as well. Sandy Bridge is amazing, but that doesn't mean everything else sucks.
It is a bottleneck because the gpu usage will never stay at 100% with a single high end card or sli/xfire and you will get lower minimum fps in any cpu intensive game. It will still play games perfectly fine but there is a bottleneck no matter what people attempt to claim.
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post #65 of 616
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Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
heres number

6. cant overclock. if you but the K-series you pay a premium.
7. if you overclock, there a big chance it will die early like most of these sandy bridge users here.
lets call that sandy bridges seven deadly sins.
for a company 10x the size of its competitor, it does manage to get its appropriate 10x of fail.

Lol, so much fail.

guess you didnt actually read the thread there did ya? The OP of that thread states this:

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guys, I have got the cpu back again albeit at 1.38vcore. I think the advice Gibbo is giving is good, and I have booted my ram (rated 1.65) at 1.5v with no ill effects... I am also running it at 1.6v now but only because it rules out the ram as a source of the problem whilst I prime95 the CPU...
I think maybe this thread should be re labelled as it now gives a false interpretation of the current status of the CPU.
So far there has only been one failure (in another thread of this forum) which was the IMC, my problems are liekly simply to be due to my overvolting @ 4.8ghz.
Which whilst they lasted for a short duration may have imapacted on the subsequent performance of the processor... Who knows...
I will post a screenie of Vcore, temps and prime95 results in a few hours.
see for yourself here: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...0&postcount=79

hilarious you thought this was the proof you needed of oh so many SB chips dying.
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do any of you get a valentines card from intel like the one amd sent out above?
i know, too awesome.

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post #67 of 616
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Lol, so much fail.
guess you didnt actually read the thread there did ya? The OP states this:
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hilarious you thought this was the proof you needed of oh so many SB chips dying.
uhh actually the fail is advertising 5GHz on air during launch and end users not even getting close to it and their chip is DEAD.

embarrassing.
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Originally Posted by blackbalt89 View Post
Can't compare 8 physical cores to 4 hyperthreaded cores.

Wait for Ivy 8 cores to make this comparison.
Someone doesn't understand AMDs new architecture at all.
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post #69 of 616
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uhh actually the fail is advertising 5GHz on air during launch and end users not even getting close to it and their chip is DEAD.

embarrassing.
change subject much? 4.8 is close to 5.0 AND his chip is NOT dead. read man!

as for reaching 5.0GHz on air.. plenty of those around these forums!

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...5ghz-club.html

you were saying...
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Bulldozer? Probably same as always, incomparable in performance but certainly will provide bang for buck.
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