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  • 32% (289)
    Yes, it will.-
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    No, I don't think so...
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post #81 of 616
I hate people who make threads like this.
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post #82 of 616
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Nice glad im patiently waiting
post #83 of 616
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Originally Posted by scyy View Post
That is nothing but conjecture, there is no solid information on how efficient bulldozer is and that is all there is to it. Unless you take graphs that look like they were done by a 10 year old to be good enough for you.
Intel was not always better than AMD
Fact.
From what we know of BD its Architecture is faster and more efficient than that of SB
Its not fact but its definitely not conjecture. Clock Speed is still up in the air but the design is not. Bulldozer looks faster and more efficient by design than SB looked.
AMD has a history of being innovative and Intel has a history of being imitative (overall)
Fact. My wording may be questionable, but the history is not.

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I hate people who make threads like this.
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post #84 of 616
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He is stating which is faster, there is no preference when it comes to that, just hard numbers. Yes phenom II's can pretty much all games just fine, as long as you realize it won't be running it as fast as the competition and won't be taking full advantage of high end video card setups.
It was the "AMDs will never compete with the likes of Intel" sort-of quote that threw me off of that. I respect that he backed up what he said (beforehand, not for that statement), but I just think that particular statement was fanboy-ish.

It's sort of like "Windows operating systems will never be as good as Mac operating systems." It's just a blind thing to say.
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post #85 of 616
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Intel was not always better than AMD
Fact.
From what we know of BD its Architecture is faster and more efficient than that of SB
Its not fact but its definitely not conjecture. Clock Speed is still up in the air but the design is not. Bulldozer looks faster and more efficient by design than SB looked.
AMD has a history of being innovative and Intel has a history of being imitative (overall)
Fact. My wording may be questionable, but the history is not.



Agreed
I was mostly quoting for the "From what we know of BD its Architecture is faster and more efficient than that of SB" part," even if it looks to be more efficient we can not know until real official benchmarks have been released. Till that time it is nothing but speculation and conjecture. Also I know intel has not always been better than AMD and I never denied that, I in fact often point out that exact fact to intel fanboys going on about how amd has always been second best. And in response to your last point, I suppose you could claim that but even if they are not always the most innovative they are very good at improving upon proven concepts and this can not be argued. It's not always about doing it first, it's about doing it right.(not saying amd is doing it wrong)
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post #86 of 616
Guys, history repeats its self. Look at the past, and you'll know the future.
    
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post #87 of 616
Not sure if this is a flamebait or a troll thread.

If it isn't my opinion is follows ;
  • No infomation has been realeased.
  • Intel and AMD tend to shift positions as top dog, if the process continues it's AMDs turn to be the main supplier.
  • We don't have any performance or prices
post #88 of 616
no one knows for sure
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post #89 of 616
I think Bulldozer will come up short against Sandy Bridge. But I don't think it will "fail".
Edited by PyroTechNiK - 2/14/11 at 10:27pm
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post #90 of 616
I'm not sure how bulldozer performs, and at this point I don't care. I was a huge AMD fan for a good while, I built my first pc on AM3. But intel has won me over. In starcraft 2, my fps doubled going from my unlocked x3 720 @ 3.6ghz w/ 2600mhz cpu-nb, to my 2500K @ 4.6ghz w/ everything else stock. Not to mention these processors clock like crazy and stay extremely cool. My 4.6ghz oc @ 1.332v load only gets up to 60c while folding.
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