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I've heard that AMD (later though) plans to release 8c/16t for clients/desktops
Kind of like when they updated K10 with the all-new x6
post #112 of 214
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Originally Posted by A Russian :D View Post
Again other prediction once Ivy Bridge and Bulldozer are released.

-4 core bulldozer will be around $150 ish and will be around 1156 i5 performance.
-6 core bulldozer/2500k will be around $190 ish with the better one costing a little more and the 2600k around $250
-8 core bulldozer/6 core Sandy Bridge will be around $330 ish and the 6 core Ivy bridge around $430 ish
-8 core Ivy bridge will be $999.
If a BD core can only match an old i5 core without hyperthreading, then BD will be seriously outclassed by SB and much later IB. Can't see that happening though (regarding only be equal to the old i5). Plus £93 for a quad core BD? Dream on.
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I'm all for AMD making a comeback as the performance champ but thinking that AMD will retain its bang for the buck status if Bulldozer wallops SB/IB is a little naive. AMD is still a business, they are not your friends. Their current pricing is not because they are doing you a solid, its because they have no other choice in the matter if they want to make sales. If Bulldozer is miles ahead of SB/IB expect not only prices to reflect that but Intel taking the helm of bang for your buck manufacturer instead of AMD.

Remember when AMD was the performance champ they had $1k CPUs just like intel does now.
Don't remember AMD making $1000 CPUs. I do remember the old K8 for about £350 destroying the £600 P4s, but I had little to no interest in PC hardware at that time. Most people were brainwashed with Intel being "superior" at that time, but things have changed since then.

Also I have about £2K sitting in the bank for a new build. £500 of it I'm gonna use on making my current ancient PC a file server with about 10TB space (already have 2.8TB now, will add minimum of 4 2TB drives soon) either way, if AMD don't deliver the best bang for buck CPUs (I doubt it very much) I still have more than enough cash to build a high end system now, by the time BD is released I'll have way more than enough cash for a decent build.

Anyway maybe Intel is an option for you but it isn't for me. No way am I buying a CPU with DRM and a kill switch, regardless of how good it is, if AMD follow suit as Intel have (which I also doubt) then I won't upgrade till they remove the crap from their CPUs.

Also do not let current AMD desktop CPU prices influence your opinion on how good bang for buck the future AMD CPUs will be. Keep in mind that it is costing them more to revise and make the current old K10s than it would be to manufacture the new Bulldozers, as with the new CPUs always come the lower manufacturing costs.
    
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LOL
Kill switch = If ur LAPTOP gets stolen you can make it unusable.
DRM = Only with some sort of intel's own streaming program..
I seriously don't understand fanboys.
    
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Shouldn't Intel fans be happy with this? Not like they can't come back, and they may get better prices.

Would you die if AMD became competitive again?
     
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If a BD core can only match an old i5 core without hyperthreading, then BD will be seriously outclassed by SB and much later IB. Can't see that happening though (regarding only be equal to the old i5). Plus £93 for a quad core BD? Dream on.
Personally I think it will be in between the old i5 and i7, i6 you could call it.

Look at pricing...

a new 955x4 costs $140
a new 1055x6 costs $180

Bulldozer's module design is way way cheaper to add more cores (basically 2 cores in the same die size as one regular core).
    
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Do you think a 4 core BD will out perform a Thuban? If it doesn't, AMD may as well not bother releasing BD. If it does, it will surely cost more, though both AMD and Intel have to set their prices reletive to the performance of the opposition.

If BD's total cost / performance isn't comparable to SB's then i'm not interested. May as well get an SB or wait for IB.
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want to believe.....
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Intel Fanboys

The way I see it :

35000Mhz / 4000Mhz = 0.875

0.875 x 100 = 87.5

100 - 87.5 = 12.5%

So :

AMD's current 45nm 'Thuban' core has around the same 'per-clock' performance as a 45nm Intel Core 2 Quad.

Core i7 Neahelm is on average 15% faster 'per-clock' then Core 2 Quad and Thuban.

Sandy Bridge is on average 10% faster 'per-clock' then i7 Neahelm and thus 25% faster then Core 2 Quad and Thuban.

Ivy Bridge is rumoured to be around 20% faster 'per-clock' then Sandy Bridge putting it 45% faster 'per-clock' then Core 2 Quad and Thuban.

Bulldozer is 12.5% faster then Sandy Bridge 'per-clock' in this screen shot meening it's 37.5% faster 'per-clock' then the current top end Thuban core.

Which also puts Bulldozer in-between Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge in terms of 'per-clock' performance.

My thoughts :

Using a little thing I like to call common sense I say that this benchmark is possible as a 37.5% jump in 'per-clock' performance over the ancient architecture Thuban is based on is easily possible and not in the realm of impossible.

Intel fan boys need to wake up and start using a bit of common sense.
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