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Originally Posted by narmour View Post
It's just competition. For those who think AMD won't be ahead of Intel is stupid. It's always going to alternate between the two.
lets be realistic here.


8 years ago, amd poked the sleeping giant that is intel. intel first response was slow, and it cost them market share and completely destroyed the image of netburst. so they did what any company that couldn't compete, they cut prices, bought themselves time, and came out with a new architecture and a new release cycle/roadmap.

as far as i know, amd doesn't have a tick-tock release cycle, and lets face facts again, amd doesn't have the resources to compete with intel on this level. if they did, they would roll out their own tick-tock, release a new architecture every two years (instead of every 4 to 5) and die shrink and architecture improvements every year (instead of ever 2 to 3 years).

they released phenom and phenom II to compete with conroe, phenom I were barely able to compete with amd's own k8 architecture, let alone intel's flagship, phenom II release a bit later, was able to take on conroe and the tock penryn, but at that time intel had already moved onto bloomfield, then the tock hit, released lynnfield, and now is onto a new architecture and die shrink, yet leaving phenom II feeling even further dated.

even if bulldozer will out perform sandy bridge and ivy bridge, there is still a six year gap between dominance for amd, and if history is any indication, intel's next "tick" will decimate amd's offering, the "tock" will put it even further behind, and by the next "tick" we will be back at this argument...

now this "apu" market, unless intel pulls a gold calf out of its ass, and replaces intel graphics with something more substantial, they will definitely will loose on the intergrated graphics solution, but that is not cause the amd cpu is better, its cause the ati gpu is better...
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post #172 of 214
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So is this article talking about a 4 bulldozer modules (which would basically be 8 cores) or a 2 module (near as makes no difference four cores) CPU? I'm not so sure this article follows AMD's naming conventions. Either way Bulldozer needs to come out already, the Phenom II microarchitecture is how old?
No this article is talking about a Zambezi QUAD CORE CPU.
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post #173 of 214
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lets be realistic here.


8 years ago, amd poked the sleeping giant that is intel. intel first response was slow, and it cost them market share and completely destroyed the image of netburst. so they did what any company that couldn't compete, they cut prices, bought themselves time, and came out with a new architecture and a new release cycle/roadmap.
Sounds like you could be writing about AMD.



Edited by purpleannex - 3/4/11 at 12:47am
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post #174 of 214
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Sounds like you could be writing about AMD.

I would agree with that... Thats what intel did when they were at the bottom of the totem (slash prices)... now its AMD at the bottom of the totem and their redoing the architecture from the ground up just as Intel did when they took the performance crown... so it goes back and forth... this is the beginning of AMD's return the the performance crown... Intel will slash prices and come up with a new plan and be ahead again... and vice versa... over and over...
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post #175 of 214
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I personally dont believe those benchmarks , anyone can just make up BS and spread the rumor ...

Doesnt really matter what amd do , intel are going to make sure ivy bridge eats this thing alive ...

Amd are just too slow , who knows why they bought out ati when they should of just focused on making the best processsors ... but thats intels job .
If AMD didn't buy out ATI, someone else will( intel, nvidia) then there will be no AMD today.


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I personally dont believe those benchmarks , anyone can just make up BS and spread the rumor ...

Doesnt really matter what amd do , intel are going to make sure ivy bridge eats this thing alive ...

Amd are just too slow , who knows why they bought out ati when they should of just focused on making the best processsors ... but thats intels job .
If AMD didn't buy out ATI, someone else will( intel, nvidia) then there will be no AMD today.


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Apart from the obvious trolling that Xristo was failing at, regarding the point about ATI, he needs to go and look at the news section about Llano, to see why buying ATI was a very smart move, it showed a lot of foresight.
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ARM will take over Desktop/Mobile computing

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post #178 of 214
boys and thier fanboy e-peen BS.....

everyone get over yourselves, until this is released and we actually do REAL benching ourselves, no chip is better than the other, finished, hands down, /thread
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post #179 of 214
Well, those last two posts were helpfull. It's a bit like the Ivy bridge thread claiming speeds 20-30% faster the SB, we have no proof of this, it's just speculation.

I don't believe in God / God's, but I don't attempt to try to stop people fantasising about it.
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I'll believe it. 4 module, 8 core BD beats 4 core SB...
that said, what about 8 core SB?
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