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Hey guys,

I wanted to ask for some help building a gaming rig. I'm pretty noob at this stuff, and really have no clue where to begin.. Is it ridiculous to try and build a computer that will last 4-5 years for 800 bucks? I want to make my computer as future proof as possible, but dont want to spend too much money. I have a general idea on what to get, but would like some more pro opinions.

I was thinking the i5 760, its decently cheap.
As for the mobo, I was thinking that gigabyte socket 1156 one on newegg for 120 bucks, the only problem would be that it strangely does not support 1600 mhz ram, but supports higher and lower. Also the bigger problem would be that only the first pci slot runs x16, the second one only goes for x4, so either i need a bettter mobo that really supports crossfire/sli and save some money on a ridiculously good graphics card, or just blow my money on a good graphics card now.. I dunno guys -_- It's all so confusing lol.

Also, how good of a power supply would I need? I mean I dont see why people need freaking 1000w power supplies if even 650w ones can support crossfire/sli, since thats what consumes the most right?

Also, when the next generation intel processors come out, will they not be compatible with the 1156 or the 13** socket motherboards?

And, is there that big of a difference between the 1333, 1600, and 2200 ddr3 ram chips? Whats with the different brands of graphics cards that are the same card? like evga nvidia 560 vs the msi 560 or the asus 560 or something. I'm bombarding you guys with questions but dam im so lost -_-
Someone told me that the radeon cards are garbage, I only go by benchmarks and this particular site has the 6850 up pretty high but yeah that someone told me its a garbage card and to go for an nvidia 580 instead, something I can sli later.

So... help! This 800 dollar budget doesnt include a moniter, I'll get that later.

EDIT: I currently play WoW on a mbp from 2009, but I cant even run it on high past 20fps.. which is just depressing. I want to be able to play more intense games like diablo 3 when it comes out on like close to max settings..
Edited by jayfurrie - 2/14/11 at 10:20pm
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Wow. Ok

x4 only drops performance by a miniscule amount

AMD Radeon cards are not garbage

1156 motherboards only compatible only with 1156 socket chips

RAM speed does not make too much of a difference

For graphics cards, different brands offer different things such as better coolers etc.

$800 computer will not last 5 years of gaming.

And you do not need some 1000 watt power supply unless maybe you have extreme stuff like crossfire/SLI which is not really possible for $800

http://www.overclock.net/specs.php?do=addsystem
^Add your details here so we could you help in more detail

And have you thought of doing an AMD build instead on an Intel build?
Edited by SalisburySteak - 2/14/11 at 10:38pm
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I dont actually have a computer yet.. did you want me to list what my cart looks like in newegg? Just to see what I have in mind?

I dont see why not go with an AMD build, its just that everyone has been telling me to go with intel. I remember seeing this youtube video a long ways back about how an amd chip just started frying when the heatsink was removed, whereas the intel just performed incredibly slowly. Have they fixed that yet?
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Originally Posted by jayfurrie View Post
I dont actually have a computer yet.. did you want me to list what my cart looks like in newegg? Just to see what I have in mind?

I dont see why not go with an AMD build, its just that everyone has been telling me to go with intel. I remember seeing this youtube video a long ways back about how an amd chip just started frying when the heatsink was removed, whereas the intel just performed incredibly slowly. Have they fixed that yet?
Who the hell will remove the heatsink while the cpu is running anyway, its just a test video for fun. Anyway, Amd cpu is the way to go, get the phenom 1090 = i7 930 while 80 $ cheaper(200$), 130$ motherboard, with a gtx 560 or 6950 if u want 1-2 years gaming proof for 250$ . A hyper 212+ cpu cooler for 20 $ . a corsair tx 650w PSUfor 90 $ , 20 $ for dvd reader, 50$ for a harddrive, a 60$ case(antec 900)
This should last u a while like atleast 2 years
edit: forgot the memory part, add 50 $ for 4 g ripjaws so total 870$
Edited by Sushimaster - 2/15/11 at 5:21pm
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If you live near a microcenter you can get an i7-950 for $199
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AMD 1090T Build with 560Ti: Modify if you want
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103849
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231276
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261101
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827140041
$781 here but I forgot about case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129066
$855

Also there is nothing wrong with an AMD CPU or GPU: They are the best for budget consiosus(spell check) people and fill a nice price point with awesome preformance.
Edit:
If you really want to stay under 800$ swap the Thuban with this and/or get a cheap mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103808 AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE

Also you can drop the 560 and get a 400 series that is cheaper or get an 6850/6870 AMD card.
Edited by Versa - 2/15/11 at 4:51pm
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I would recommend the following for your budget give or take a few

-CPU-
965 BE-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-727-_-Product
970 BE-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...4&Tpk=970%20be

Video Card-
GTX 460, get the super clocked or FTW edition if you can (superb card especially in SLI)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130567

MOBO-ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 (decent boards room for SLI)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-647-_-Product
or
MSI 870A-G55 AM3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-558-_-Product

RAM-Corsair Dominator 4 gigs-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-296-_-Product

HD-Western Digital 640gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-319-_-Product

PSU-Corsair 750TX-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=corsair%20750

Case- COOLER MASTER HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-233-_-Product

Optical Drive- Asus Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135221

Monitor- Acer 21 inch
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009275

This all comes out to around 960, recently built a similar system like this for a friend and he is very pleased. You have a lot of room to upgrade, 4 gigs of ram is enough for most things right now, when you get some more cash can toss in another 460 etc. I didn't include mouse or keyboard, or speakers, most people have those lying around somewhere already ha ha
You can shave off some bucks by going with a cheaper monitor,cheaper ram, and cheaper video card. But this is pretty solid in my opinion. If you wanted to overclock these chips do it nicely, but i wouldn't recommend their stock heatsinks.
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Originally Posted by Versa View Post
AMD 1090T Build with 560Ti: Modify if you want
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103849
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231276
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261101
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827140041
$781 here but I forgot about case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129066
$855

Also there is nothing wrong with an AMD CPU or GPU: They are the best for budget consiosus(spell check) people and fill a nice price point with awesome preformance.
Edit:
If you really want to stay under 800$ swap the Thuban with this and/or get a cheap mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103808 AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE

Also you can drop the 560 and get a 400 series that is cheaper or get an 6850/6870 AMD card.
oh that the exact build i suggested him but i forgot memory XD, ,my build is 870 $ with a case . u also forgot a harddrive
Edited by Sushimaster - 2/15/11 at 5:23pm
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are you trying to max out everything at $800 for 5 years? it's not possible but if you find the parts suggested above in combo, it'll save you another 100 or 200 bucks to invest in better cpu or gpu
    
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are you trying to max out everything at $800 for 5 years? it's not possible but if you find the parts suggested above in combo, it'll save you another 100 or 200 bucks to invest in better cpu or gpu
yeah i guess 800 dollars for 5 years was a stretch.. thanks everyone for the suggestions!

heres another question: as for the moniter, i can let it make my 800 dollars become 900 or 1000 even since I guess moniters can last longer than 5 years. But I've been reading online about response time/ghosting and tn panels vs ips and I think ips is the way to go, I just dont know if 5ms is good enough. Will I be able to tell the difference between 5ms response time and 2ms response time when playing games like WoW or HoN? Also, does anyone here own an ips moniter and have some convincing arguments to not get one?
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