Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [softpedia]AMD's Upcoming Hudson-D3 Chipset for Llano APUs Gets Detailed
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[softpedia]AMD's Upcoming Hudson-D3 Chipset for Llano APUs Gets Detailed - Page 3

post #21 of 39
Amd has always made a better chipset than Intel.
post #22 of 39
The reason Intel's has the NIC on the chipset is because Intel makes NICs separately as well. Not having an NIC onboard chipset is not a big deal because a separate one would be just as good and AMD doesn't make NICs. But think of what this chipset does have included: USB3.0 that isn't on a separate chip!
post #23 of 39
Will it have front panel USB 3.0 headers?
Koneko
(12 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD R5 1600 Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Sapphire RX560 (2GB) Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W (16GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveMonitorKeyboard
Samsung 840 Pro (256GB) Seagate ST3000DM001 (3TB) Alienware OptX AW2310 (120Hz) Generic Dell 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX750 Corsair Carbide 88R Mionix Naos 7000 Steelseries Qck 
  hide details  
Reply
Koneko
(12 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD R5 1600 Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Sapphire RX560 (2GB) Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W (16GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveMonitorKeyboard
Samsung 840 Pro (256GB) Seagate ST3000DM001 (3TB) Alienware OptX AW2310 (120Hz) Generic Dell 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX750 Corsair Carbide 88R Mionix Naos 7000 Steelseries Qck 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
Or in this case, no Gb/s NIC is far better than the nastiness Intel generally resorts to, like the nastiness that is the Centrino, and other turds they crank out.

Besides, it is better if it isn't part of the chipset because then, one can upgrade to whatever they want, like Fiber Optic.
huh?

Intel NICs generally are better than most.... and when I say most... I mean Realtek.

This is a desktop chipset. How many people are running $300+ fiber NICs on desktop PCs? How many people are running 1Gb networks?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Poisoner View Post
Amd has always made a better chipset than Intel.
....based on what?
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #25 of 39
finaly native support for usb3.0!

some said that third party chips works better sometimes. sometimes they also fails even more.
post #26 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
The reason Intel's has the NIC on the chipset is because Intel makes NICs separately as well. Not having an NIC onboard chipset is not a big deal because a separate one would be just as good and AMD doesn't make NICs. But think of what this chipset does have included: USB3.0 that isn't on a separate chip!
SB850 has integrated Gb MAC, no one chose to use it. (Which they've been making the same choice for ages with Intel solutions.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixlight View Post
Will it have front panel USB 3.0 headers?
That's up to the board makers. Though, most likely, they will.
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
Reply
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
Reply
post #27 of 39
I can't believe they used Raid-5 as a downer. Raid 1 and 0 are great for nearly anything the client user is going to use. Save those options for servers. If anything, the feature is not what they should be looking at, but rather the performance. Intel's raid controller is significantly better then whatever AMD is using now.

Furthermore, the 3rd party ethernet isn't too much to worry about. Realtek does pretty fine.
post #28 of 39
@all posters who are complaining about no ethernet

Read some of the first and the actual thread first before posting. (applies to all news posts)
post #29 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
SB850 has integrated Gb MAC, no one chose to use it. (Which they've been making the same choice for ages with Intel solutions.)
Yep, the integrated NIC on AMD's SB850 was rarely used. Since the NIC logic took a certain amount of space, but wasn't used it got scraped.

...also most Intel consumer boards have Realtek NICs because although there is the NIC logic inside the chipset, a codec chip is still needed to translate the Ethernet signal. The Realtek chip can do both the Ethernet signal conversion and the NIC part and (I suppose) it is cheaper than implementing Intel's solution.

BTW, I really like the USB 3.0, they only have to make it so that one or two USB 3 ports are accessible on the front.
Centurion
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 940 @3.3GHz 1.25V Gigabyte 790X-DS4 XFX 5850 8GB OCZ DDR2-800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair Force 3 TRUE Win 7 Pro x64 ACER 23" TN  
PowerCase
400W Silverstone Strider Antec P182 
  hide details  
Reply
Centurion
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 940 @3.3GHz 1.25V Gigabyte 790X-DS4 XFX 5850 8GB OCZ DDR2-800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair Force 3 TRUE Win 7 Pro x64 ACER 23" TN  
PowerCase
400W Silverstone Strider Antec P182 
  hide details  
Reply
post #30 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by dragosmp View Post
Yep, the integrated NIC on AMD's SB850 was rarely used. Since the NIC logic took a certain amount of space, but wasn't used it got scraped.
The question is why wasn't it used.

AMD hasn't scrapped that all together.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragosmp View Post
...also most Intel consumer boards have Realtek NICs because although there is the NIC logic inside the chipset, a codec chip is still needed to translate the Ethernet signal. The Realtek chip can do both the Ethernet signal conversion and the NIC part and (I suppose) it is cheaper than implementing Intel's solution.
The main reason board makers don't use the Intel NIC is because of the cost (with licensing being the biggest part) vs Realtek solutions.
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
Reply
Test Bed
(24 items)
 
TTTbox
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 3570K  Biostar TZ774XE Power Color AX5770 1GB 4x4GB 1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Western Digital Green 2TB Samsung Spinpoint M4 500GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel X-25M G2 80GB Lite-On BluRay Drive Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2212HM Deck Legend Frost Tactile Silverstone Strider Plus 750w Custom Acrylic Test Bed 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm Tactics FPS Beyer Dynamics DT-990 600ohm Samson MediaOne 3A 
AudioAudioOtherOther
FiiO E09k QOGIR FiiO E17 ALPEN Microsoft Lifecam Studio Blue Yeti Pro Microphone 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10-A5800K ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Radeon HD7770 1GB 2x8GB 1866mhz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2TB 5400 RPM  24x DVD Drive Noctua L9A 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 32" IPS TV Logitech K400 Seasonic G360 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced Logitech K400 Trackpad Custom 2.1 Home Theater Setup 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [softpedia]AMD's Upcoming Hudson-D3 Chipset for Llano APUs Gets Detailed