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post #1 of 11
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So my RAM has decided that it is time to die and has left me without a computer, and i was wondering what kind of RAM (need 4gb+) should i get to replace it? i have about £60 to spend and was thinking about getting : http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173933

which is the RAM i have now but was thinking about going for 2 sets of it, nice and cheap and i seem to run out of RAM quite a bit, as i have Games FM2011 for example that eats RAM for breakfast as well as Music, Video and internet going all at the same time and 4GB just doesnt seem to cut it anymore

I am thinking about doing an upgrade in the future (about 6months most likely) and would be changing Motherboard and the CPU so would like RAM that i could keep past that upgrade so i dont have to pay out more to update it in like 6months

I havent decided what i am going to go for as i have been out of the CPU game for some time, knowing that AMD is nice and cheap and performs well i think its likely to be that but other then that i dont really know for the time being.

i know that some CPUS prefer 2 or 3 sticks of RAM but would having 4 sticks inpact on the performance much?
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post #2 of 11
4 Sticks of ram will increase performance because there is more capacity. I don't think it will impact much on performance.

I recommend you get 2 sticks of ram because most pc system will use around dual channel.

You can try G-Skill ripjaws. I use this ram and it serve me well.
On the other hand, Kingston make a good ram.
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post #3 of 11
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Okay thanks for the tips, i will have a look around and see what i can get. the ones above i will leave as backup, my current set served me well, at least they did until they died
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post #4 of 11
If it's C2 revision CPU and 4 DIMMs... prepare for a whole bunch of problems
post #5 of 11
Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz Ballistix

CL8 is better than CL9.

Or these Ripjaws but I'm not a fan of the taller heatsinks...

Ripjaw Memory Kit CL7(7-8-7-24)
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post #6 of 11
The Crucials may have better overall overclocking results if you don't mind higher voltage, due to Micron ICs over PSC. However, the PSC in Ripjaws can still manage a fair 6-8-6 at 1.65V or so.
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
If it's C2 revision CPU and 4 DIMMs... prepare for a whole bunch of problems
i THINK its the C3 revision, would that improve things at all? As for those mentioning Overclocking i dont think i would be overclocking the RAM any time soon as i am clueless when it comes to Overclocking the RAM. i know that i had to manually set the voltage on the RAM i had due to problems could that have had any effect on the RAM dying? i set it to 1.65 as i was getting Bad Page Pool errors and such

Can anyone confirm that "Bad Page Pool" is a RAM problem? as i did get it right before the computer died, it happened and then i restarted the computer fine but got another BSoD that had NO error code or anything it was like part of it was missing or something and it was after that that i couldnt get any video signal to the monitor
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post #8 of 11
Done "Remove sticks, clean contacts, install a stick, run Memtest86+, test other stick if slot works" yet?
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post #9 of 11
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I did all the tests i could do from reinstalling all parts (minus CPU) i cleaned out the RAM, GPU, Fans. I then tried using different sockets on the RAM, i tried using 1 stick, then the other and tried all the sockets with just 1 stick and nothing worked, still had no image on the screen kept getting the message about a HDMI cable wasnt plugged in, i know the GPU works as far as powering up and the fan going.

But without another PC i could use to test the parts in a seperate computer i had to go to a dreaded *whisper* PC Shop repair *Whisper* but all i wanted them to do was to confirm what part was broken, i will not be buying any parts from shops like that, they confirmed it was the RAM i havent picked the PC back up yet but i will be asking them about what tests they did and everything just to make sure.

But as i did EVERY test that i could possibly do with having NO access to any other PC or parts i was VERY limited to being able to confirm what part had died - do i still lose rep?

EDIT : i havent been able to run memtest due to the fact that i get no image on the screen to be able to see anything, i have tried using the on board HDMI and using DVI cable as well but none of them show any sort of image on the screen, that was partly what led me to think it could be the RAM as when i first set it up i didnt have the RAM installed properly (was too afraid to push down too hard ) and i got the same thing
Edited by ArmageddonAsh - 2/16/11 at 3:39am
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post #10 of 11
While you were cleaning the parts, did you reset BIOS?
If the Asus has indicator lights to tell what the problem is, you can look it up the manual. Or use a PC speaker connected to the board to get the beeps that might tell you the type of error you're having.
If all trails lead to RAM problem, I'd get a 2x4GB kit, RMA the OCZ sticks (while they still accept them; OCZ is leaving the RAM market), and sell the replacement kit or assign as backup (after testing them of course).
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