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Hello every one,

I'm trying to choose parts for a upcoming build (as soon as my basement renovations are over (hopefully in 1 to 2 weeks). I'm trying to build myself a good gaming rig but as cheep as possible. I am choosing AMD for the processor to keep the motherboard and cpu cost down and spending the extra money I save on a high end video card. I will be overclocking slighly once I know the system is fully stable. I would also like to somewhat future proof the system and will probably cross fire an extra video card in the future once the system needs an upgrade.

My concern is if I should go with a 4 core AMD processor, phenon or Atlon or the 6 core AMD processors. Will the 4 cores be a future bottleneck if I decide to cross fire? if YES, should I consider investing in a 6 core 1055T or 1090T processor?

Please keep in mind I am trying to keep the cpu\\motherboard cost as low as possible so I can invest in a high end video card.

Here are the parts I chose for my build.

- MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 (cross fire board) (58$)
- AMD Phenom 1090T/1055T OR 965 ???? (prices from 100$ to 225$)
- XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB ($319)
- Antec Truepower New 650W ($35)
- Thermaltake V4 Black Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($45)
- MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 (cross fire) ($58)
- G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GB Ripjaws CL7-7-7-21 ($43)
- Corsair Cooling Air Series A50 Performance CPU Cooler ($25)
Edited by thestef - 2/15/11 at 7:36am
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- Antec Truepower New 650W ($35)
- G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GB Ripjaws CL7-7-7-21 ($43)
- Corsair Cooling Air Series A50 Performance CPU Cooler ($25)
those are some insane prices ...concidering TP-New 650 costs 80$ , A50 is 40$ and CL7 ripjaws around 65$

other then that , that psu wont handle 6950 CF
my recomendation would be this combo Mobo+6850 214$AR+promo code (great 8+2 power phase mobo , decent 6850 with good overclocking abilities)
1055T 180$
6850 is very power efficient , 2 of them will take around 300w under full load , which leaves u 350w to go around on overclocks , case fans , hdds , odds
6850 CF(300$ AR+promo codes) has around 95% scaling which brings them performance wise on par with GTX 580(500$) here's the performance chart . also note for 6850 CF u will need an overclock of CPU to 3.6-3.8Ghz and North Bridge to 2.6-2.8Ghz good luck with ur build
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Don't pair the 1090T with that motherboard, you're looking for an excuse to catch your system on fire! (4+1 unheatsinked, MSI)
And what about this RAM?
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Link to the $35 Antec PSU please?
    
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I think the Truepower 650W for $35 is the one in NCIX in Canada (but $35 is an after rebate price)
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Yes the power supply is on NCIX, however I'm not sure the discount is still effective...

Would this board be good for a 6 core? however is not cross fire.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=46944
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Yes the power supply is on NCIX, however I'm not sure the discount is still effective...

Would this board be good for a 6 core? however is not cross fire.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=46944
no , its only 4+1 power phase
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Originally Posted by thestef View Post
Hello every one,

I'm trying to choose parts for a upcoming build (as soon as my basement renovations are over (hopefully in 1 to 2 weeks). I'm trying to build myself a good gaming rig but as cheep as possible. I am choosing AMD for the processor to keep the motherboard and cpu cost down and spending the extra money I save on a high end video card. I will be overclocking slighly once I know the system is fully stable. I would also like to somewhat future proof the system and will probably cross fire an extra video card in the future once the system needs an upgrade.

My concern is if I should go with a 4 core AMD processor, phenon or Atlon or the 6 core AMD processors. Will the 4 cores be a future bottleneck if I decide to cross fire? if YES, should I consider investing in a 6 core 1055T or 1090T processor?

Please keep in mind I am trying to keep the cpu\\motherboard cost as low as possible so I can invest in a high end video card.

Here are the parts I chose for my build.

- MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 (cross fire board) (58$)
- AMD Phenom 1090T/1055T OR 965 ???? (prices from 100$ to 225$)
- XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB ($319)
- Antec Truepower New 650W ($35)
- Thermaltake V4 Black Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($45)
- MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 (cross fire) ($58)
- G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GB Ripjaws CL7-7-7-21 ($43)
- Corsair Cooling Air Series A50 Performance CPU Cooler ($25)
Why don't you wait for Bulldozer? I'm sure there'll be a price drop on all the current tech.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by thestef View Post
Hello every one,

I'm trying to choose parts for a upcoming build (as soon as my basement renovations are over (hopefully in 1 to 2 weeks). I'm trying to build myself a good gaming rig but as cheep as possible. I am choosing AMD for the processor to keep the motherboard and cpu cost down and spending the extra money I save on a high end video card. I will be overclocking slighly once I know the system is fully stable. I would also like to somewhat future proof the system and will probably cross fire an extra video card in the future once the system needs an upgrade.

My concern is if I should go with a 4 core AMD processor, phenon or Atlon or the 6 core AMD processors. Will the 4 cores be a future bottleneck if I decide to cross fire? if YES, should I consider investing in a 6 core 1055T or 1090T processor?

Please keep in mind I am trying to keep the cpu\\motherboard cost as low as possible so I can invest in a high end video card.

Here are the parts I chose for my build.

- MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 (cross fire board) (58$)
- AMD Phenom 1090T/1055T OR 965 ???? (prices from 100$ to 225$)
- XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB ($319)
- Antec Truepower New 650W ($35)
- Thermaltake V4 Black Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($45)
- MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 (cross fire) ($58)
- G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GB Ripjaws CL7-7-7-21 ($43)
- Corsair Cooling Air Series A50 Performance CPU Cooler ($25)
You're listing the motherboard twice. Also, get a better motherboard it wont support a Phenom x6.
    
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post #10 of 23
Try ASUS M4A79XTD EVO. Price match it and it's great for price. Also, 870 chipset doesn't support Crossfire (8x-8x) either; M4A79XTD EVO does. It may be slightly more optimal than 16x-4x; the M4A79XTD EVO also comes with a quality 8+2 heatsinked VRM.
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