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I have 2x velociraptors running in raid mode, 500 gigs of space.

Right now I have vista 64 bit installed ,all my games and other programs are also running on this.


I need to run 1 program and make it FAST as possible (speed is everything, and not gaming, for trading). This is for work.

I was thinking about installing multiple operating systems on the machine, windows 7 just for work.

Would this help ?

Could I even partition my harddrive now without destroying data already on my vista 64 operating system.

If you have any other suggestions please say.
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What is the application doing and how fast does it need to be?

Short stroke the RAID array and install the OS on the first partition, containing just enough space to run your application. This, obviously requires you moving your current install, programs, etc. If the application is pulling loads of data from a database, then you have another issue altogether.

You should be able to repartition depending on how much free space you have, but it will end up putting your second OS on the inside of the platter, which will be slighly slower than an OS put on the outside of the platter.
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I think Im going to just redo everything.

System is just really damn slow right now. And it should not be. This is a pretty darn good pc.


To answer your question, the application is lightspeed. And it needs to be as fast as I can get.

I see the cpu hit close to 100% sometimes. Its a q9650.
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I cant believe i said darn.

That makes me want to punch myself in the face.

Replace "darn" with GODDAMN F*ING SH*****T

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU*



You know what it is?

When you install a copy of an operating system, its like fresh garden soil.

Then you feed it with a little bit of ignorance,a little bit of "I CAN FIX IT MYSELF!",and a whole lot of stupidity .
Pretty soon you have a "out of control internet whore" working full time on a part time personal computer, consisting of a million separatist applications all needy for their very own updates,bandwidth ,cpu power ,and memory allocation, and above all your credit card numbers, all with nifty little in between the lines "click no to not not not install" in small captions in the bottom right hand corner (sometimes left or top) of your monitor, by now which looks completely like crap because you uninstalled aero, bold fonts, color, and clicked on vga 640x.

Rant off.

Rocky moment. Think rocky song.

WELL IM PURGING ALL YOU BASTARDS TONIGHT!

Should I install XP or windows 7 for best speediness.

I want application responsiveness, thats my goal.
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Wow, OS rage =)

I compulsively maintain my computer, so the OS stays pretty fresh.

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To answer your question, the application is lightspeed. And it needs to be as fast as I can get.
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Should I install XP or windows 7 for best speediness.
What is lightspeed? The only lightspeed I know of is a Mac based Point of Sale program.

I think it will depend on how the application is written, and what resources it uses. In terms of disk throughput purely, short stroking your RAID array and installing the OS on an independent partition first will give you the most performance for the OS.

Create a second partition on the short stroked drive to hold lightspeed and necessary apps.

You can also take measures to pare down your OS services and applications that are running to free up resources.
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i thought lightspeed is/was a ancient 3d rendering program, for frame modeling?

if the program you are wanting to run works in win7, i say go for it.
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Hi and thanks for the response.

Im reading on shortstroking guides right now.


It says to create a small partition (small as I can get by),

I plan on deleting everything on this raid 0 drive (2x 500 gig velociraptors)

Should I FIRST install the windows 7+ the work application?


You mentioned it would be faster on certain parts of the hard drive.

So when I create a partition, do I put the operating system on THAT partition or do I put it on whats left over (aka the other 400 gigs).

Also do I need to do anything different with raid in windows setup (aka loading up drivers and such) because raid is already setup.


Thank you in advance. The axe (on my system) awaits your response.
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Hahaha...

You will probably need your motherboard SATA drivers on a USB stick for the OS installation to recognize your HDD.

When you shortstroke, you essentially create a small partition for the OS first, and then install to it. What this does is put the OS on the outside of the platter. Since there is more surface area on the outside, more data passes under the read head per second, so performance is higher than the inside of the platter (second, third, etc partitions).

You can do whatever you want with the rest of the partitions, since the OS is on the fastest part already. Any data you wanted to access should also be on this partition for the best performance, but I really don't understand the need you have.

The application could draw from a network database, making any OS speed completely bottlenecked by your network transfer speeds. If data throughput isn't your problem, this won't help you much but will increase OS and app responsiveness (likely on the scale of imperceptible).

If CPU power is your bottleneck, no repartitioning is going to help.
    
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I am eliminating all possible reasons why I have slowness when sending orders through my lightspeed(haha) trading platform.

Quickest and surest solution I could think of is just starting from scratch.

PS why do I need my mobo sata drivers if I already have them installed. Thanks again.



EDIT:

Do you think windows 32 bit would be faster than 64 bit , for this software. http://www.lightspeed.com/?page_id=5058

I have the setup show in my sig.
Edited by bloomstomb - 2/15/11 at 5:38pm
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You need your motherboard SATA RAID drivers for the windows installation to detect the drives, unless the drivers are embedded with your motherboard.

I'm not familiar with the application. If this is licensed software that operates purely on remote networks, you should probably consult the software company. I can only imagine that the bottleneck would be your network connection or the connections between their servers.

I really don't know how the software works, however.

Most of the time companies like this have a small engineering team that can explicitly answer those types of questions, because sometimes the software is designed in ways that only the engineers will have insight into.
    
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