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speak of the damn devil , newegg just came back into stock with the 2600k......

EDIT:and the 2500k, but still finding a mobo for a decent price is hard at the moment, then you have to ask yourself if you want a pre recall board or wanna wait until the revision.
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speak of the damn devil , newegg just came back into stock with the 2600k......

EDIT:and the 2500k, but still finding a mobo for a decent price is hard at the moment, then you have to ask yourself if you want a pre recall board or wanna wait until the revision.
Yeah, can't do much without a mobo. But I guess it's a good thing they put the Cpu back up there since it's still a sale.
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All the research and comparisons I've done leads me to believe the following:

AMD = more cores/dollar. More total available performance/dollar IF it can be utilized on lots of cores!
Intel = performance per core at a premium, and a higher roof of performance available at additional cost.

Once you go beyond the price point of the high end AMDs, there is almost always more performance with Intel. Within the price range of AMD, it depends on application/situation. On the borderline of the high end of the AMD price range, Intel wins most battles but AMD can still hold its' own in a very few categories with the extra cores. Within the AMD price range, everything depends on application.

Given my perception of the scenario, if you can afford the i7 range and intend to purchase now, you should go for it. An i7 build beats even the Thuban for most real world situations most of the time.

If you can hold out a few months to see what comes to fruition, then hold off on this decision.
     
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They generally run cooler because they have to, for instance, a 965 BEs general recommended thermal threshold is 60c, i7 can handle a lot higher temps than that, in turn more vcore, in turn higher Overclocks.
This is kind of half true. The architecture and build process is different, that's why they have different thermal limits. Phenoms will actually take much higher vcore than i7's (old and new) because they leak more power, and they run cooler for the same reason.

The hotter the chip, the more cooling it will need, more cooling equals more noise.

Out of curiosity, what fan speeds are you running for that 5Ghz overclock?
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All the research and comparisons I've done leads me to believe the following:

AMD = more cores/dollar. More total available performance/dollar IF it can be utilized on lots of cores!
Intel = performance per core at a premium, and a higher roof of performance available at additional cost.

Once you go beyond the price point of the high end AMDs, there is almost always more performance with Intel. Within the price range of AMD, it depends on application/situation. On the borderline of the high end of the AMD price range, Intel wins most battles but AMD can still hold its' own in a very few categories with the extra cores. Within the AMD price range, everything depends on application.

Given my perception of the scenario, if you can afford the i7 range and intend to purchase now, you should go for it. An i7 build beats even the Thuban for most real world situations most of the time.

If you can hold out a few months to see what comes to fruition, then hold off on this decision.
Interesting analysis on current AMD and Intel chip matchups. And if I remember right, even the latest Phenom II X6 chips are still based on the very old K10 architecture, fundamentally.

And it's pretty much impossible to build a Sandy Bridge system right out with the mobos out of comission. So with the Sandy Bridge reviving in April which is around the time of the brand new Bulldozer release, might as well hold out and see how the new AMD stacks up against the Intel. Who knows maybe AMD will pleasantly surprise everyone and kicks some Sandy Bridge butt, hehe. Although I think Intel also has Extreme Edition 8-core desktop Sandy Bridge in the works...aka Core i7 980X/990X successor at the similar four digit price point.
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Well I really have no choice but to wait till then so I guess I'll see what comes of it. Pretty sure extreme intel shiz is WAY outta my price range, so I'll pretend that it doesn't exist, haha.
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Indeed, Sandy Bridge can OC to 5GHZ and beats Phenom II clock-for-clock, ect. But what does it mean for the gamer?

Nothing. I beat the pants off the best Sandy Bridge score (with same GPU) with my mildly overclocked 1090T. Gaming performance is GPU driven. The random guy here obviously didn't overclock his GPU enough. Mine was at 1000/1200. He sure did spend more on his CPU though (I got mine for $185, $165 after combo discount).


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Currently, stick to an i7-2500K and call it a day. 125 GFLOPS at 5 GHz is nice beans. Next top performer is the i7-980, 100 GFLOPS at 4.5 GHz, next being a 1090T with 80 GLFOPS at 4.5 GFLOPS.
post #29 of 29
Intel has better performance in synthetic benchmarks but in reality only like a 10-15% performance leap over AMD clock for clock.

it all comes down to your needs if your budget is limited then AMD, but if your budget is around 2-3K then no question, go with Intel.
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