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He's, somewhat, mistaken. The only leg-up they have is a growing base. If you ask Person A what he rather have, an Xbox or PC, with the given that they share the same games, they'll most likely respond with Xbox. Why? Because it's simple, that's what consumers want. The majority of people don't sit at their desks covered in Doritos. How come sports games have almost been eliminated from the PC, hmm?

Answer me that?
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what i meant is soon console graphics will be exactly the same as pc graphics so unless they come out with new super hi def tvs, it will come down to what you prefer. A plus on the pc though is you get a computer which can surf the web and do other stuff, and plus who doesn't love modding and customizing their pc =D
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Answer me that?
Easier control scheme

It's the reason why most RTS games are still on PC.
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You write you're own material?
You seem to know the answers here, I asked a legitimate question here :S

or is it answer first and ask later? o.O
    
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NOT the argument at hand. But, thanks for playing.
...the OP mentioned that Diablo III is the next big release; not to mention, it seems the "argument at hand" is regarding Console vs. PC gaming and developer support. I'm not quite sure how pointing out that we still have a lot of good developments coming our way and that it's not being lost to console doesn't apply to the argument.

I realize that this is the internet, but there's no need to be rude.
Edited by EfemaN - 2/15/11 at 10:33pm
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First of all, without commenting in anyway on the original argument or the validity of it or its points, the OP needs to simmer down and stop being an arrogant douche.

Its fine to argue points, its fine to disagree, and its fine to simply not understand another person's point. However, building most of you counter arguments on ad hominem remarks, sarcasm, stubbornness, insults, and disrespect of the opinions of others only invalidates your own points, not theirs.

This topic is a very big one, and it is a very personal one to everyone on these forums. If this discussion is to continue without mods stepping in and closing the thread, or the discussion to spiral into flames and become worthless, we all need to respect one another and eachother's opinions.

OP, you clearly put a lot of thought into the topic and show a strong will to discuss it. I'm asking you to please keep it civil. I'm not a moderator on these forums so none of this is meant as a threat, and definitely not as an insult, but I've moderated a few forums and still moderate some and I can clearly see how this thread will go as it stands.

As for my opinion? Well first of all, the reason that PC gaming has taken a back foot to consoles is because of the price of admission into PC gaming and the age groups involved (few jobless teenagers or younger can afford good rigs or even have a want for one).

If PC gaming is to survive, we need a different approach to the market. Perhaps as the OP said, adding some multiplayer elements to the entire game will help. Though not as a replacement to the epic single player stories, but as an addition and a tool to make the experience better. For instance, a Final Fantasy game with great online mini games which help you progress your single player character or earn those elusive in-game currency to progress through the game. This could fairly easily guard against piracy

However, I don't think piracy is the issue. Its the profitability of the game in general. The PC can be difficult to code for because PC gamers have higher expectations, and PC games sell for less money and to a smaller consumer base than consoles. Perhaps the expansion idea such as SC2 and HL2 will be the answer? Release a great game, and work on it to add new chapters and progress the storyline making the game far better, and allowing the PC developer to make more profit on the easily made expansions.
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If PC gaming is to survive, we need a different approach to the market. Perhaps as the OP said, adding some multiplayer elements to the entire game will help. Though not as a replacement to the epic single player stories, but as an addition and a tool to make the experience better. For instance, a Final Fantasy game with great online mini games which help you progress your single player character or earn those elusive in-game currency to progress through the game. This could fairly easily guard against piracy
True. That. Unfortunately, the first thought that came to mind was how I've seen over and over in the past few years in both personal experience and reviews, etc., that the single-player portion of games are being neglected and put out as subpar experiences while the MP gets the attention.

That's not to say that it holds true everywhere. I've seen many games with fantastic campaigns, like Mass Effect, Fallout, etc. My only hope is that we continue to see games like these being produced, even in the presence of mediocre attempts at market share.
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True. That. Unfortunately, the first thought that came to mind was how I've seen over and over in the past few years in both personal experience and reviews, etc., that the single-player portion of games are being neglected and put out as subpar experiences while the MP gets the attention.

That's not to say that it holds true everywhere. I've seen many games with fantastic campaigns, like Mass Effect, Fallout, etc. My only hope is that we continue to see games like these being produced, even in the presence of mediocre attempts at market share.
Very true, but those games are more focused on multiplayer, and I have no problem with that. What I meant was that there still will be single player focused games, but perhaps with some multiplayer or online additions to them. Not sure, kind of a guess really.
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The biggest problem with PC gaming is the fact that we are now a throw away economy. If something breaks, you throw it away and get a new one. Your Xbox360 RRODs out of warranty? Trash it. Get a new one. You drop your $400 laptop and break the LCD? Seeya. Who's sending in their iPod Touch for repair out of warranty? $1000 to $2000 on a gaming PC is out of people's comfort zone for just throwing away in the event you break it, which I think is the expectation. PCs require maintenance. You might need a new PSU, a new hard drive, a case fan might crap out. You have to get someone to fix it if you don't know what you're doing. Next to my office is a guy that ran a lawn care business and made a great living for 40 years selling and repairing lawnmowers. He's trying to retire and thought he had all this equity built up in his business. Unfortunately sales have totally tanked over the last 10 years. In 2000, people bought the quality models. Serviceable equipment that would last you. For a modest fee, this guy could get you mowing again like new. Now people just buy the bargain bin crap, complain about how crappy it is, and throw it away. You've got to instill this idea in people again that you've got to stop buying crap and invest in things you want to keep.
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