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No not pepsi

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The reason I posted FAIL (which is one of the very few post I have done this in) was because the entire concept of the article stemmed upon speculation & data which could never be gathered/obtained, therefore the entire thread was irrelevant, and furthermore any possible conclusion at best wouldn't even be remotely accurate...I wasn't disrespecting anyone, I was saying the article/source & reasoning was a fail...
...That sounds rather like your BD estimate thread...

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No not pepsi

Root Beer!

Root Beer Floats!




This is America, we take fat, and put it on top of fat... It's freaking great!



This is why you're fat.
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Something leads me to believe that there is some unknown (or severely unpopular) technology some engineers know about which is one reason why the chip makers are shifting to CPU/GPU....

It leads me to believe that possibly Parallel &/or DNA processing or some other bizarre conceptual processing design is about to be developed or come to developement which will revolutionize &/or significantly increase a CPU's Processing Performance....

Even though that could be a remote possibility, we have other bottlenecks out there, like the HDD/SSD hardware, which still really isn't up to part with something on the lines of a PCIe SSD & still not fast enough to push enough data to these super light year processing beast we have & are about to come into our hands (Bulldozer)...

Then one looks at the server side where multiple CPUs are on one Main Board (I like this word more than Motherboard), which could have been developed in the background by AMD Engineers to test new theorems & concepts..

Call me crazy, but I hope we see some significant advances into the Super Computer department some time in the near future... It's not so much about which platform you compute on, but the possibility of what a desktop can do....

(Transcoding large Video files faster, Compressing Archives, and Compiling Large Code faster would be what I'm referring to here.. Also some new Open GL stuff too..)
For years the biggest performance increases came from higher clock speed.

Then the biggest performance increases came from more cores.

In a few years the biggest performance increases may come from GPGPU. Time will tell.
post #54 of 74
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Its not a lie, I was just simply wrong.

Like AMDs marketing guy was lying when he said Phenom I was going to be 40% faster than C2Q?

I still fail to see why floating point even matters on the home user end.

When AMD's SERVER marketing guy said 40%, he was actually right. From a server perspective we say 40%+ increases in floating point, STREAM and pretty much most of the 4P server workloads.

What happened was the client guys assumed that he was talking about client systems, but that was not the case. He was the head of the server division and to the best of my knowledge never talked about client until he ran that group, which was much later.

Now, with that being said, just because you don't use FP doesn't mean that it isn't important. There are a wide range of workloads out there and ignoring them does not help build credibility for your arguments, it only shows that your view of the world is actually a pidgeonhole and not a broad aspect.
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When AMD's SERVER marketing guy said 40%, he was actually right. From a server perspective we say 40%+ increases in floating point, STREAM and pretty much most of the 4P server workloads.

What happened was the client guys assumed that he was talking about client systems, but that was not the case. He was the head of the server division and to the best of my knowledge never talked about client until he ran that group, which was much later.

Now, with that being said, just because you don't use FP doesn't mean that it isn't important. There are a wide range of workloads out there and ignoring them does not help build credibility for your arguments, it only shows that your view of the world is actually a pidgeonhole and not a broad aspect.
nicely put

since you work for amd have you seen the bd yet? sinple yes or no
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Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
When AMD's SERVER marketing guy said 40%, he was actually right. From a server perspective we say 40%+ increases in floating point, STREAM and pretty much most of the 4P server workloads.

What happened was the client guys assumed that he was talking about client systems, but that was not the case. He was the head of the server division and to the best of my knowledge never talked about client until he ran that group, which was much later.

Now, with that being said, just because you don't use FP doesn't mean that it isn't important. There are a wide range of workloads out there and ignoring them does not help build credibility for your arguments, it only shows that your view of the world is actually a pidgeonhole and not a broad aspect.

My view and needs are exactly as I say they are.

I do not need 234 cores, I need 4 strong ones. AMD has yet to prove they can provide that.

If I don't use something it doesn't make me wrong, it just means my needs are different.

So lets just agree that my needs don't encompass the entire scope of an x86 cpu, and you can admit AMD utterly failed to provide gamers with an acceptable product.
    
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Bacon in Ice Cream?.... what the hell?
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AMD utterly failed to provide gamers with an acceptable product.
I've seen plenty of reviews where the Phenom IIs perform well for gaming. Tomshardware.com recommended Phenom II X4 for gaming. I think they know more than some fruitcake like you on the internet.

Stop acting like a little b*tch and arguing with everyone.
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Thats not the point Ding, but it's ok.

Enjoy your bottleneck.
    
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No not pepsi

Root Beer!

Root Beer Floats!




This is America, we take fat, and put it on top of fat... It's freaking great!
I think i just saw how my cholesterol shoot through roof... LOL
    
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