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Alright, I looked around and didn't see other posts on this topic.... My buddy and I both play RIFT, both have decent computers, and run @ Ultra settings++

He has an older i5 @ stock(3.something Ghz), and a gtx 460, 4 gigs of ram and gets 50-60fps totally maxed.

I on the other hand have my sig rig, 2500k @ 4.5ghz, 8gb ram, gtx 465 oc'd to...

and only if I turn down my antialias do I get 30ish fps.

I was looking around and read that a lot of people dislike the 465, and say that it performs worse than the 460...but I don't understand why? could someone shed some light on this?




EDIT:
For reference this is my gpu : http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n4...ozr-ii-review/
Edited by GapTroll - 2/15/11 at 10:58pm
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post #2 of 13
The 465 will perform clock for clock faster than the 460. The 465 is built off the GF100 architecture (same as the 470 and the 480) which means they run a lot warmer. The 460 is made using GF104 which means that it innately runs much cooler but is a hair slower than the 465. Because of the lower thermal headroom on the 465, it may be possible to overclock the 460 past the 465s speed, thus making it a faster card (pure speculation). The 465 is by no means a bad card.
As for your performance problem, I have no idea. The only thing I can suggest is that you make sure you aren't cranking the settings in nvidia control panel. I remember turning AA too far up for my COD4 profile and it made it run like garbage on my 285s.
    
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Are you both playing at the same resolution?
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yes the resolution is both 1920x1200.


Also thank you Klue22 for the information, I'll try a few different settings in the control panel, I had it mostly on "let the application decide"
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Good post Klue22. Did you check if your 465 is unlockable to a 470 GapTroll?
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post #6 of 13
in every single benchmark ive ever looked at and i look at aloooot the 460 trumps the 465....
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Here's a good link. It does appear that the more OCable 460 can trump the 465, although not by much.
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/8003...65-review.html
    
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post #8 of 13
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thing is though his 460 is stock, so im not sure why it's beating me by 30 fps...


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Originally Posted by Klue22 View Post
Here's a good link. It does appear that the more OCable 460 can trump the 465, although not by much.
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/8003...65-review.html
DAMN! i don't know how this didn't come up when i forum searched, thanks again!
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post #9 of 13
Psh. Staryoshi got a bum 465. :>

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/m4ebx/

My maximum OC with that old thing @ 1.087v.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kand View Post
Psh. Staryoshi got a bum 465. :>

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/m4ebx/

My maximum OC with that old thing @ 1.087v.
beats mine! http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/gcxvv/
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