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If you are shown a video of someone being punched in the face for 2 seconds a day, for your entire life, you will be less surprised to see someone punched in the face. In fact, you'll probably pay more attention since you are more familiar with the act. You don't need to punch anyone or get punched for that to work.

You will be able to fight better if you watch people fight. There are studies that show you actually increase your ability to play music by THINKING about it. The amount of time you spend thinking about something (intentionally or not) builds connections in your brain regarding the subject.

It is pretty basic in theory.

Interpolate that to all your thoughts about violence and punching, and the fact that you saw those videos is going to change the way you think and react to punching faces compared to someone that has never seen someone being punched in the face.

Assuming both people are 100% the same at the start, because a realistic conversation about this is likely well outside the scope of anyone here's knowledge of psychology.
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Ya you did lol.
No I didn't. You're just misunderstanding me.

Edit: _02 gets it.
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No I didn't. You're just misunderstanding me.

Edit: _02 gets it.
Yes you did, i have proof...
    
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Yes you did, i have proof...
It doesn't change anything.

An example more to your liking will yield the same logical conclusion if you ask me. Honestly I don't even think you need an example. See something, brain checks connections and brain makes more new connections based on what you saw.

Having thousands of times more connections to violent thoughts is going to make you think about violence differently than someone who has very little developed thought about violence.
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If you are shown a video of someone being punched in the face for 2 seconds a day, for your entire life, you will be less surprised to see someone punched in the face. In fact, you'll probably pay more attention since you are more familiar with the act. You don't need to punch anyone or get punched for that to work.

You will be able to fight better if you watch people fight. There are studies that show you actually increase your ability to play music by THINKING about it. The amount of time you spend thinking about something (intentionally or not) builds connections in your brain regarding the subject.

It is pretty basic in theory.

Interpolate that to all your thoughts about violence and punching, and the fact that you saw those videos is going to change the way you think and react to punching faces compared to someone that has never seen someone being punched in the face.

Assuming both people are 100% the same at the start, because a realistic conversation about this is likely well outside the scope of anyone here's knowledge of psychology.
Seeing someone get punched in the face on a electronic screen is alot different than in real life. You would still react the same way, say you had a tiger growl at you on TV everyday of your life, now in real life, see my point?
    
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Seeing someone get punched in the face on a electronic screen is alot different than in real life. You would still react the same way, say you had a tiger growl at you on TV everyday of your life, now in real life, see my point?
I do, but I don't think I agree with it.

If you see a tiger growl at you frequently on television it is going to change the way you think about tigers, growling and every thought associated therein. I didn't really notice that tigers have whiskers on their eyes, but you would think it obvious.

Think about this. You are shown a tiger growl at you every day on a black and white TV. You are going to be able to pick out a fake tiger growl with more acuity than someone who has never heard a tiger growl. That easy. You will also probably be more likely to visually identify a tigers face and stripe patterns than someone who has seen a tiger only a handful of times.

Given the right situation, you may even find a growl appropriate to express something with provable frequency compared to someone who has little exposure to tigers.
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I do, but I don't think I agree with it.

If you see a tiger growl at you frequently on television it is going to change the way you think about tigers, growling and every thought associated therein.

Think about this. You are shown a tiger growl at you every day on a black and white TV. You are going to be able to pick out a fake tiger growl with more acuity than someone who has never heard a tiger growl. That easy. You will also probably be more likely to visually identify a tigers face and stripe patterns than someone who has seen a tiger only a handful of times.
Real life situations are called "real life situations" because when your in them there isnt much other than your bare instincts your going on, sure youve seen many videos of car crashes/robberies/etc on the internet, but if you were ever wintess them first hand its alot different. Sitting in a chair at home in a safe place is much different than actually being in the crap yourself.
    
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Real life situations are called "real life situations" because when your in them there isnt much other than your bare instincts your going on, sure youve seen many videos of car crashes/robberies/etc on the internet, but if you were ever wintess them first hand its alot different. Sitting in a chair at home in a safe place is much different than actually being in the crap yourself.
I never said it wasn't different. Of course it is, we can certainly agree on that.

What I said is, no matter if you see it in person or watch it on television, it changes how you think about it. If in a situation you only have bare instincts, how do you explain fighters and race car drivers benefiting from experience?

Why do you think they have flight and combat simulators?

The source of the experience doesn't matter, every single experience builds connections in our brain that future experiences have to pass through. In that way, our experience on TV or in real life forms the very fabric of our brain, and our thoughts.

Totally, getting punched in the face is massively different than watching it. But you still change your thoughts regardless of which one you go through.
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Yes you did, i have proof...
Sigh.

This isn't a contest.

Besides, you are taking what I said and blowing it out of proportion. You're exaggerating it. You're missing my point. It's almost like you're taking things out of context and only getting out of it what you want.

Are you a gamer? Did you just get done playing a game? It sure feels like it.
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It doesn't matter what you do. If a dude is crazy, then they can go crazy over the smallest thing!

That kid who killed his mum! Did he do PS3 attacks on her, like special moves?
No, he was just a nut case waiting to explode
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