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If you think that then I suggest you go read some article comparing game performance on Dual, Quad and Hexa cores..

Dual cores STRUGGLE NOW......let alone in 2 years time...

Bad company 2 for example runs miles faster on a quad then a dual core...

EDIT : http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...o-games-need/1

If you're running more then 1 graphics card then you HAVE to have a Quad...
Once again I am talking about the majority of people who use PC's, not enthusiasts who obsess about framerates...

I am just saying game developers arent going to forget about these gamers on Core 2 Duos, they still make up a majority of the market. They are the kind of customers who arent upgrade happy.

The market is going towards Quad support, but its going to be a slower journey than you think. It is still going to be about the graphics card when it comes down to it...
Edited by dlee7283 - 2/16/11 at 7:55am
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guys chill

this is supposed to be a weaker microATX system im using to take to lanparties and moving around a lot

i dont have the money to get an x58 motherboard against so im selling off my i7 930 to get an i3+h55 mobo

i just wanted to know how well it would game @ 4.5ghz
Why not go AMD? Get a nice quad which puts out next to no heat making it perfect for mATX?
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Dual core WILL be fine for the next couple of years.

Will they offer the absolute best performance? Probably not. But that doesn't mean they will not provide good gameplay.

In fact, I have a Pentium D 945 @ 4ghz as a secondary rig and I can get 30 FPS in Mafia II, for example. And that's a freaking Pentium D! We're talking about a Netburst dual core here, from 2005.

Also, for gaming, it's not about the number of cores, but what you can do with them.
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Once again I am talking about the majority of people who use PC's, not enthusiasts who obsess about framerates...

I am just saying game developers arent going to forget about these gamers on Core 2 Duos, they still make up a majority of the market. They are the kind of customers who arent upgrade happy.

The market is going towards Quad support, but its going to be a slower journey than you think. It is still going to be about the graphics card when it comes down to it...
What the in blue hell are you talking about? Developers don't code for a specific amount of cores, They make there engine multi threaded and that's the end of it. No special tricks for dual cores.

Developers are pushing things more and more, So do you think they'll stop improving physics and AI and other CPU related tasks because dual cores can't take it? Not in the slightest, They'll code there engine how THEY want and if your CPU can't hack it that's your problem. We're already seeing this trend in new games with regards to physics and ai...

And the market is going towards quad support? Yea.....18 months ago... All major releases in the last 18 months or so can make use of 4 cores.

And still about the graphics card? It's the CPU's job to keep the graphics card fed with rendering information and a dual core won't do a good job of that if it's using up it's processing cycles trying to keep up with the games physics and ai..etc...etc..
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Dual core WILL be fine for the next couple of years.

Will they offer the absolute best performance? Probably not. But that doesn't mean they will not provide good gameplay.

In fact, I have a Pentium D 945 @ 4ghz as a secondary rig and I can get 30 FPS in Mafia II, for example. And that's a freaking Pentium D! We're talking about a Netburst dual core here, from 2005.

Also, for gaming, it's not about the number of cores, but what you can do with them.
What graphics card? And 30fps is no were near playable...
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Why not go AMD? Get a nice quad which puts out next to no heat making it perfect for mATX?
phenom II is 125w
i3 is 73w

I understand that the phenom II is stronger in most games (whereas i still dont feel that the athlon II x4 isn't with both at max oc) but ocing a phenom to the point where it's stressed to 150w+ isn't the best idea even on some of the better matx amd motherboards since they lack cooling on the mosfet/vrm and have much less phases

if i were building a full sized system or had a larger budget i'd likely not have gone i3, but i feel it's the best choice i could have made for now

keep in mind this is being used with a gtx460 768mb, im not using gtx580s

i just want to know if there's anyone out there with highly clocked i3s that call tell me how well they do in games, ocn always gets tangled up into stupid debates.

edit:

how my x58 died: some really small chip on the very upper right exploded
Edited by skarm - 2/16/11 at 8:14am
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What the in blue hell are you talking about? Developers don't code for a specific amount of cores, They make there engine multi threaded and that's the end of it. No special tricks for dual cores.

Developers are pushing things more and more, So do you think they'll stop improving physics and AI and other CPU related tasks because dual cores can't take it? Not in the slightest, They'll code there engine how THEY want and if your CPU can't hack it that's your problem. We're already seeing this trend in new games with regards to physics and ai...

And the market is going towards quad support? Yea.....18 months ago... All major releases in the last 18 months or so can make use of 4 cores.

And still about the graphics card? It's the CPU's job to keep the graphics card fed with rendering information and a dual core won't do a good job of that if it's using up it's processing cycles trying to keep up with the games physics and ai..etc...etc..
6 core mainstream adoption is pretty low

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/cpus/

You posts just seems like a big reason to justify your X6 purchase which is annoying.

Basically legacy support is where it is at in PC gaming, look at Starcraft II for example...

Do you magically think that developers are going to make games that won't run on Dual Core well in the next 2 years; 50 percent of the market share?
Edited by dlee7283 - 2/16/11 at 8:18am
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How bout saying it will play any game in the planet. Quad cores will be faster but if you have 2 or 3 GPUs but with one GPU Dual Core @ 4.5Ghz is very fast. Most games dont use over 2 core so you should be fine. Yeah Quads will be faster @ COD7, BC2, SC2, GTA4 but the Dual core will still be enough.
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Bad company 2 for example runs miles faster on a quad then a dual core...

EDIT : http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...o-games-need/1
this actually doesn't look that bad, considering they're using a stock 980x @ 3.33ghz

i'd imagine a 4.5ghz dualie would pull ahead pretty well
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6 core mainstream adoption is pretty low

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/cpus/

You posts just seems like a big reason to justify your X6 purchase which is annoying.

Basically legacy support is where it is at in PC gaming, look at Starcraft II for example...

Do you magically think that developers are going to make games that won't run on Dual Core well in the next 2 years; 50 percent of the market share?
Then I suggest you re-read my posts in this thread and count the number of times I said Quad and Hexa...

I bought it because it was only an extra £30 for an extra 2 cores or £15 per core so the choice was a no brainer.

That chart you posted just shows more people slowly leaving dual and going quad core so you're just proving that even the average joe is slowly migrating to a quad.

And not everyone who games takes those surveys, I know I don't.

Legacy support is all well and good, Until it starts to hold back developers then legacy support goes right out the window...

Developers are already pushing games that are too much for dual cores... It's called turn down the graphics to get playable frame rates..
Edited by antuk15 - 2/16/11 at 8:26am
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