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phenom II is 125w
i3 is 73w

I understand that the phenom II is stronger in most games (whereas i still dont feel that the athlon II x4 isn't with both at max oc) but ocing a phenom to the point where it's stressed to 150w+ isn't the best idea even on some of the better matx amd motherboards since they lack cooling on the mosfet/vrm and have much less phases

if i were building a full sized system or had a larger budget i'd likely not have gone i3, but i feel it's the best choice i could have made for now

keep in mind this is being used with a gtx460 768mb, im not using gtx580s

i just want to know if there's anyone out there with highly clocked i3s that call tell me how well they do in games, ocn always gets tangled up into stupid debates.

edit:

how my x58 died: some really small chip on the very upper right exploded
Well grab a Athlon 2 x4?
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Well grab a Athlon 2 x4?
i dont think an athlon II x4 @ ~3.8 will hold up to an i3 @ 4.5 as well in most games

lack of l3 cache in athlon II x4 really hurts the core v. core performance compared to the phenom II

i used to have a ph II 955
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i dont think an athlon II x4 @ ~3.8 will hold up to an i3 @ 4.5 as well in most games

lack of l3 cache in athlon II x4 really hurts it
I used to run an Althon 2 x4 at 4ghz and you would be surprised at how well it manages

Just look, 2 extra cores with no L3 cache against a CPU that's 10-15% faster per clock and it came out on top by quite a margin



The extra cores are more of a benefit then L3 cache

Athlon 2 x4's aren't as bad as people think
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i've read other whole reviews, generally the i3 tends to perform slightly better at such high clocks. can't really decide based on a bench of a game i dont even play.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...essor-review/1

the i3 530 is toward the lower end of the charts here, running with the athlon x3/x4

keep in mind that the i3 in that review is 2.93GHz, not 4.50GHz which is a 53% increase in clock speed
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i've read other whole reviews, generally the i3 tends to perform slightly better at such high clocks. can't really decide based on a bench of a game i dont even play.
But the above will become more common of a result as time and games move forward.

You keep the i3 you'll prolly get 12 months AT MOST before it's needs changing.

Get a quad and it'll meen you haven't got to change it as early which is less money.

Sell the i3 now while it's still worth something
post #36 of 58
The i3 at 4.5ghz will be FINE! thats such a great oc, that it will overcome any bottlenecks it would have at stock. I still game on a c2d e4300 @ 3.3 and it still does over 100fps on BC2.... and the i3 is like twice what that chip is and way faster clock speed too. People always over estimate how much you really need a quad. That i3 should hold you for 2 years.
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i've read other whole reviews, generally the i3 tends to perform slightly better at such high clocks. can't really decide based on a bench of a game i dont even play.
Check for the games and programs you use. Certain ones will work better for Intel CPUs and certain ones will work better for AMD. Also, there is a lot more to CPUs than just clock speed and L2/L3 cache sizes. The architecture and instruction sets help out much more than people think. For instance the instruction set in Sandy Bridge CPUs allows them to perform something called "quick sync" iirc and that means that with just the CPU alone they can outperform a hexa core with a GTX580 on transcoding files.

Also, beyond the CPU you have the memory and it's settings to account for along with the GPU. Lacking an L3 hasn't hurt my gaming much. I read up and looked at what I play and at most would be down 5FPS compared having an L3. And thats with stock clocks.
     
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The i3 at 4.5ghz will be FINE! thats such a great oc, that it will overcome any bottlenecks it would have at stock. I still game on a c2d e4300 @ 3.3 and it still does over 100fps on BC2.... and the i3 is like twice what that chip is and way faster clock speed too. People always over estimate how much you really need a quad. That i3 should hold you for 2 years.
And slows down to a crawl when things get hectic..
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Listen guys. Ive owned an i7 at 4.2GHz with multiple types of gpus. I got this rig right now for wait for Sandy to mature a little. Right now I got an i3 540 @ 4.5GHz and my GTX 460. The performance between the two systems is basically NOTHING. I have all the lastest games like GTA IV, Bad Company 2, and Starcraft 2. They are all VERY payable at 50+ fps and I run at 1920x1200.
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The "Dual vs Quad" argument from 4 years ago (when the E8400 was hot stuff) leaned towards dual-cores merely because they were the only ones that could with-ease OC to 4.5 GHz. The issue was speed vs load, but with the new quads, that argument is quickly becoming invalid. Newer quads are easily hitting 4+ GHz, with the benefits of the newer architecture.

Hyperthreading can be a bit of a gimmick, but it does help, and having 4 cores to allow for a larger overall load, and at the really fast speed of 4.3+ GHz, these newer quads are kicking butt and quickly becoming mainstream. With the imminent domination of quads over dual-cores, you can safely bet that going with a newer quad is the better way to go.
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