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Well I have a Xonar DG at the moment and have had it for a while and it is useless for gaming, which was what the reviews said it was supposed to be good at. Constant sound looping during cut scenes in most games (Hitman Blood Money, L4D2, Mafia 2), random CPU hogging when sound effects set to high -- you name it. I'm not planning on selling/throwing this one away though, as it is actually very good for music listening through headphones or speakers, as good as my friend's D2X, even with his fancy set up I can't hear the difference (though I'm not much of an audiophile to be fair) so the card will be left for a low power file server build I'm gonna do in the future for music and stuff. Also it sounds fine when I tried to record my guitar through it, so it is also reasonably good for recording instruments (whereas my friend's D2X has a wierd latency lag when recording instruments through it).

However I need someone with experience using Creative cards to tell me how good they are with Windows XP (any driver problems or something) because since they made their EAX technology, I figure they'll be the best choice for gaming, and whether it is a painful process of switching sound cards? Is it as annoying as switching GPUs (i.e. do I have to re-install OS or use Driver Sweeper) and what's the best PCI sound card with, say EAX 3.0 support that Creative have that's available in the UK?
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I would try reinstalling/updating the drivers for the DG- I haven't experienced any of those issues with mine. Maybe try the Unified Xonar drivers if the default ones still don't work after reinstall/update.

I haven't used a Creative card since my first sound card- the X-Fi Xtrememusic. After that, I upgraded to the ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3, and then got an Xonar DG for my LAN rig and haven't looked back.
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I would try reinstalling/updating the drivers for the DG- I haven't experienced any of those issues with mine. Maybe try the Unified Xonar drivers if the default ones still don't work after reinstall/update.

I haven't used a Creative card since my first sound card- the X-Fi Xtrememusic. After that, I upgraded to the ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3, and then got an Xonar DG for my LAN rig and haven't looked back.

I'll give updating drivers a go, doubt it'll do much though.

The worst thing is, in most games this thing hogs CPU space like crazy. And I bought it thanks to loads of people's misinformation that on board sound hogs more CPU clocks than a dedicated sound card, which is BS. The Xonar uses at least 3 times more CPU clocks than on board, and is in fact causing bottlenecks in a lot of games I play.
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Updated drivers and restarted a few mins ago, still the same crap happening.
    
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The purpose of the sound card other than giving you clearer sound is to take stress off the cpu. I find the problems you're having to be odd.

Keep in mind though that the DG is a low quality Asus card. To say that all Asus cards are useless cuz of your experience with one of it's lowest end models is ...funny.

If you're looking for an upgrade, I would suggest a Asus Xonar D1.

If you're looking for a creative card, try going for the Titanium Fatal1ty or Auzentech if you really need EAX.

Otherwise you're stuck going back to the Xtreme Music. Swapping sound cards doesn't require OS wipes...and neither does swapping GPUs tbh. D2X has had some problems as well, and I wouldn't recommend that card. That and they DC'd it. If you're trying to stay low on price you could try an Omega Striker, but I'm not personally a fan.

How old is your DG? Is it still under warranty? If so send it back.
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Chances are that you have a lemon card or it's something in your system, if it's the former RMA, if it's the latter, a new sound card may not help.

Either way, if it's for gaming and it's not ASUS, than it's most likely Creative, and as most people on here will tell you, it's inferior to ASUS solutions, especially in the ways of ownership base and customer support.

I would go back to ASUS if I were you, I understand your frustration but there are lemons out there and more people than not are very satisfied.
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Try turning off GX with the games.
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Sound looping sounds like a driver problem, either sound or graphics card.

My DX was doing the same thing, mostly in COD:BO and an old game I play would loop at the end of every race I ran, making it unplayable.

Download the Unified drivers, install them just like graphics drivers. Meaning to unistall, reboot in safe mode etc..or maybe try a different slot on your MoBo. I think that is what permantly fixed my prob. Went from below my GPU to the slot above it.
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Try turning off GX with the games.
Yeah, this. Go into the control panel and turn off GX, that might help. Otherwise yes, as others have said, RMA the DG.
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The purpose of the sound card other than giving you clearer sound is to take stress off the cpu. I find the problems you're having to be odd.

Keep in mind though that the DG is a low quality Asus card. To say that all Asus cards are useless cuz of your experience with one of it's lowest end models is ...funny.

If you're looking for an upgrade, I would suggest a Asus Xonar D1.

If you're looking for a creative card, try going for the Titanium Fatal1ty or Auzentech if you really need EAX.

Otherwise you're stuck going back to the Xtreme Music. Swapping sound cards doesn't require OS wipes...and neither does swapping GPUs tbh. D2X has had some problems as well, and I wouldn't recommend that card. That and they DC'd it. If you're trying to stay low on price you could try an Omega Striker, but I'm not personally a fan.

How old is your DG? Is it still under warranty? If so send it back.

First off, as I said before, I very much doubt lowering CPU usage is any sound card's priority, as I have yet to see one advertising this. Since you're running a quad, I doubt you would ever notice the CPU time your card is using but on a single core rig like mine it's very noticeable. This card in particular is a very mixed bag, as older games indicate it has some post-processing/hardware acceleration capabilities, others state that it can only do software-level processing (i.e. through hogging CPU clocks to enable these effects).

Secondly, to say a low end (performance-wise) card is supposed to be of low quality is ridiculous. Entry level sound cards are supposed to persuade people to consider upgrading and this one accomplished that to a certain degree, since it is more than good enough for some movie watching/music. The problem is the card was advertised and praised mainly as a low end gaming sound card, and it failed miserably in that aspect. I did not buy this card to expect latest EAX standards or something, but I expected it to at least function properly at medium/low sound settings. Regardless of the sound quality I set it to, it loops only during cut scenes in a lot of games and am willing to bet it's the terrible ASUS drivers that are causing this. Since they haven't released any fixes for this, or even acknowledged this problem since I emailed them, it's more than fair for me to decide to avoid buying anything from ASUS (this isn't my first purchase from them, not by a long shot, but it may well be my last).

Sending it back is not an option, as I have already stated I am happy with the way it plays music/movies and will be keeping it purely for this, and even if I wanted to, their support here in the UK is crap. Also on another issue, since I'm in the UK, Auzuntech and Omega cards aren't for sale here (it's ASUS, Creative or nothing).

P.S. to people recommending me to mend with the settings, I've already tried everything in the card's control panel to try and fix this. I've turned all effects on, then off. Tried lowering frequency/sound output to Headphones/2 speakers -- no difference.
    
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