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2 Words: Garage Sale!

(I got like 8 of these 6-12' HDMI Gold Plated Cables for anywhere from $1-$5)

So who cares if it's a scam, they serve a real purpose, higher quality digital connection to video & sound, where other connections only offer video or are low quality, like RCA... I've always had issues with RCA, but maybe it's the boards in the components, who knows...

Even if they don't deliver high definition as it claims, some people NEED them, so you can make money on them, I usually resell them for $20 to $40 each..
The cable isn't the scam behind hdmi. The scam behind hdmi is all the junk everyone keeps going through to try to secure protected content. It's literally eating companies and consumers alive. It's entirely responsible for vista being horrible. No self respecting computer nut would use vista. You can't change anything in it without it flipping out. Windows 7 relaxed that a bit but it's still all in there. People are straight up revolting against windows and simply refusing to upgrade from windows xp. I hated hdmi and my first flat panel was dvi and once i finally got a dvi cable for it i was shocked how much better it looked.

If anybody wants to know why we keep getting sucky os's and why driver support is so aweful these days and why people make decisions like ati to drop support of some very fine older hardware with catalyst 9.4. Just read up on what kind of nonsense people are going through in blind effort to secure content. In effect making the machines so expensive that people are forced to steal content. LOL

The question isn't if expensive HDMI cables are a rip off. The question is should you buy one of the cables at all. Should you be aware of what is going on and why and the reasoning behind it and simply force the issues.

10baseT is awesome. If you guys keep buying every version of windows and using hdmi cables you will never see it on your computer.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
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post #102 of 181
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Sort of an interesting read, but hardly news; it's well known that HDMI cables make no difference in terms of quality.
I think actually what you are paying with 700 bucks is the placebo effect of wasting 690 bucks for sure when a 5~15u$ cable does the same
post #103 of 181
Heh, I remember when I worked at Best Buy. The employee discount was cost +5% (aka you pay 5% more than what the store paid for the product)

Here's my favorite example of severe overpricing for a profit at Best Buy.

This was back in like 2004. I needed a CAT5 cable, a long one. I snag a Belkin 25-footer. Tag price is $24.99. What do I pay with my cost+5% discount? $3.27 and that included tax. Really, over a 20 dollar profit per cable?

I have never bought into the 'expensive means better' argument.
 
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People are missing the bigger picture. Best Buy and big-name companies NEED to charge alot for these cables because the mark-up on the TV sets is MINIMAL due to all of the low overhead online shops selling the same TV's online.
Think about how much square footage best buy dedicated to TV's. Then imagine they only make $100 or so on a TV sale. they NEED to make massive markup on accessories like HDMI cables and universal remotes to turn a profit.
It's just basic business.

Do I buy from best buy when I need HDMI or Optical cables? No, monoprice is my go-to.

But to call best-buy evil for trying to make a profit in this tough HDTV economy is just ignorant.

They NEED to make money on these things, and alot of it because of the eCommerce presence in the electronics world.
They're not trying to rip people off. They're making money for their employees and investors.
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People are missing the bigger picture. Best Buy and big-name companies NEED to charge alot for these cables because the mark-up on the TV sets is MINIMAL due to all of the low overhead online shops selling the same TV's online.
Think about how much square footage best buy dedicated to TV's. Then imagine they only make $100 or so on a TV sale. they NEED to make massive markup on accessories like HDMI cables and universal remotes to turn a profit.
It's just basic business.

Do I buy from best buy when I need HDMI or Optical cables? No, monoprice is my go-to.

But to call best-buy evil for trying to make a profit in this tough HDTV economy is just ignorant.

They NEED to make money on these things, and alot of it because of the eCommerce presence in the electronics world.
They're not trying to rip people off. They're making money for their employees and investors.
Oh no, I fully understand that, that's why we never got discounts on game consoles or games, since they didn't make profit on them, just accessories. Also they make more than $100 profit on their tv's or at least they used to, I bought a tv for my brother when I worked there and got over $500 off the tag price.

My point is 800% mark-up on cords/cables. That is beyond ridiculous.
 
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Oh no, I fully understand that, that's why we never got discounts on game consoles or games, since they didn't make profit on them, just accessories. Also they make more than $100 profit on their tv's or at least they used to, I bought a tv for my brother when I worked there and got over $500 off the tag price.

My point is 800% mark-up on cords/cables. That is beyond ridiculous.
Try the 16000% markup on eyeglass frames... a necessity vs a luxury. I just think there are better things to argue about.

I buy from monoprice. but i dont blame BB and other big-box stores for big prices. After all, many consumers FEEL BETTER about spending more when it's within their budget.

I don't discredit your view of things. I just dont blame big boxes for making this move.
TV's used t have a 100% markup or more, now it's more like 10% based on what I've heard from friends working at BB and audio-king/ultimate electronics who get items at cost + 5%

I bought my 42" plasma for $370 from best buy. I certainly dont think they made much profit off of me with my plethora of monoprice cables and second-hand PS3 I have at home.
Edited by Deagle50ae - 2/16/11 at 11:23pm
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So, as we all knew before... Cables are BS, and that any old cable will work the same, whether it cost you 1$, or a million.
     
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post #108 of 181
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A few months ago I was able to snag 2 6" HDMI cables for 3.95, free 2 day shipping.
Not a whole lot you can do with only 6-inch HDMI cables though...

But yea, I got my girlfriend a 7ft HDMI on eBay for like $2.50 w/ free shipping.
post #109 of 181
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I prefer monoprice.
What the...? How have I never heard of this before?! Their prices on Vesa stands for LCD's is SICK!!!!!!!!!!! Well, I'm looking through, and they have insane prices on everything. I'm in loooooooooooove!

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post #110 of 181
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It's entirely responsible for vista being horrible. No self respecting computer nut would use vista. You can't change anything in it without it flipping out. Windows 7 relaxed that a bit but it's still all in there. People are straight up revolting against windows and simply refusing to upgrade from windows xp. I hated hdmi and my first flat panel was dvi and once i finally got a dvi cable for it i was shocked how much better it looked.
Okay this is a load of crap. UAC in Vista and 7 is not to stop consumers from doing anything it's to protect them. The point of UAC is to make the user stop and ask them self "Should I really be doing this?" or "Should this program be asking to do this?" but most importantly it's to stop developers asking for permissions they shouldn't have and don't need.
Edited by voice - 2/17/11 at 12:18am
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