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Leme go to MonoPrice, where high quality hdmi cables are cheap.....
    
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post #132 of 181
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Originally Posted by SIMPSONATOR View Post
The author made a grave error when he stated:

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Because of this, the cable itself is NO DIFFERENT... It's just marketing that some companies charge more for a "v1.3" cable then a "v1.1" cable, etc... The cables themselves will work now and WELL into the future for any other HDMI versions that come along the way....
He may have been right during his time as the article was posted 5 years ago, but with new features being incorporated into the HDMI spec it will not hold true, especially 1.4 with Ethernet.

Just because a cable manufacturer was up to spec with 1.2a doesn't mean they'll pass with 1.3. That's because signal amplitude dropped about 20% under 1.3. As you may have noticed, manufacturers at the request of HDMI Licensing, LLC, have issued new guidelines in cable labeling and there are now 4 categories for non-automotive HDMI cable, Standard speed, High speed, Ethernet and non-Ethernet as version numbers deemed too confusing for consumers.

HDMI certification is divided into 2 categories, Category 1 and Category 2 with Category 1 = pre-1.3 and Category 2 = post 1.3 and the future.

As more and more consumer electronics start to incorporate 1.3 and 1.4 spec those 1.2 cables you thought to be working into infinity and beyond, because some guy online said so, will start coming up short.

Might want to give this a good read: Audioholics HDMI 1.3 Q&A





Long story short, with HDMI cables prices may not matter but compliance and distance definitely does.
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Man.. This just reminds me of how they've cracked down on HDMI encryption and have forced the sale of HDFury and like products to be blacklisted from being offered by local US/NA resellers.
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Fact: I bought an inexpensive 25 ft HDMI cable to feed my 63" plasma hanging above my fireplace. I needed the length to feed through my cable management system. It was incapable of the required bandwidth to lock onto a 1080p signal and carry high resolution audio at the same time.

Fact#2: I bought a nicer HDMI cable and all problems were solved.
That is the only difference though.

With HDMI, it either works, or it doesn't. There is no in between, save for a very short period where you do get a lock but the image is extremely artifacted and pixelated.

For any HDMI cable that "works" (with HDMI spec being constant), they are exactly the same.
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Mass Effect 2 always speaks truth.

This case is no different.

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The author made a grave error when he stated:



He may have been right during his time as the article was posted 5 years ago, but with new features being incorporated into the HDMI spec it will not hold true, especially 1.4 with Ethernet.

Just because a cable manufacturer was up to spec with 1.2a doesn't mean they'll pass with 1.3. That's because signal amplitude dropped about 20% under 1.3. As you may have noticed, manufacturers at the request of HDMI Licensing, LLC, have issued new guidelines in cable labeling and there are now 4 categories for non-automotive HDMI cable, Standard speed, High speed, Ethernet and non-Ethernet as version numbers deemed too confusing for consumers.

HDMI certification is divided into 2 categories, Category 1 and Category 2 with Category 1 = pre-1.3 and Category 2 = post 1.3 and the future.

As more and more consumer electronics start to incorporate 1.3 and 1.4 spec those 1.2 cables you thought to be working into infinity and beyond, because some guy online said so, will start coming up short.

Might want to give this a good read: Audioholics HDMI 1.3 Q&A





Long story short, with HDMI cables prices may not matter but compliance and distance definitely does.
Can't find any cables older than 1.3....
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Can't find any cables older than 1.3....
Why would you want category 1 (standard speed) cables?

If you're looking for standard speed cables, for whatever reason, Newegg has them in stock.
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People are missing the bigger picture. Best Buy and big-name companies NEED to charge alot for these cables because the mark-up on the TV sets is MINIMAL due to all of the low overhead online shops selling the same TV's online.
Think about how much square footage best buy dedicated to TV's. Then imagine they only make $100 or so on a TV sale. they NEED to make massive markup on accessories like HDMI cables and universal remotes to turn a profit.
It's just basic business.

Do I buy from best buy when I need HDMI or Optical cables? No, monoprice is my go-to.

But to call best-buy evil for trying to make a profit in this tough HDTV economy is just ignorant.

They NEED to make money on these things, and alot of it because of the eCommerce presence in the electronics world.
They're not trying to rip people off. They're making money for their employees and investors.
LOL so you are saying we need to pay more for stuff so the stores that charge out the ass can stay in business? O K
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Originally Posted by AzO View Post
No need for double post, there's a "edit" button.

You need to slow down and clearly read what he's saying:


He's talking about quality, if there is a increase in quality when using a expensive HDMI cable vs a cheaper one, and he's right there is no difference.

The topic on the link I provided is targeting distance. Two sources targeting different questions on the same topic.
They kinda go hand in hand though from what I remember reading about. Suppose a bit is lost over that 50' cable: the tv will either correct it or it will guessimate. And we all should know by now what you get when you assume.
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Lol.Its pure marketing any priced cable will be the same really,i just go by these 2 features;
#1-99.9% oxygen free copper-this does affect conductivity and quality of signal,but this can be found on cheap cables aswell

#2-AV shielding,basicly the cable is lined with foil or a copper mesh.

These 2 important features can be found on any cheap cable,and will not be any different wether you pay £1 or £100.
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