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The HD6970 can and does outperform the GTX570 in many games such as Crysis: Warhead and STALKER Call of Pripyat.
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The HD6970 can and does outperform the GTX570 in many games such as Crysis: Warhead and STALKER Call of Pripyat.
At what resolution?
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Anyone who thinks an HD 6970 can outperform a GTX 570 has to do some research. I am not being bias because I have a GTX 570, I say so because a GTX 560 Ti is just a step behind an HD 6970 and when OCed, beats it in most benchmarks.

Also, I still beleive physx is still waiting to be fully utilized and it is not a gimmick, but a way to really make an NVIDIA GPU shine in some games and make the game more interactable


3DMark 11 using Bullet physics should kinda give a clue on the direction NV Physx is going.
Edited by grunion - 2/26/11 at 5:04pm
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At what resolution?
1680x1050, 1920x1200 and 2560x1600.
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The HD6970 can and does outperform the GTX570 in many games such as Crysis: Warhead and STALKER Call of Pripyat.
The GTX570 can and does outperform the HD6970 in many games such as HAWK, Civilization V, Battleforge, Battlefield BC2, and Dirt 2.

See what I did there?
It depends entirely on the game.
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At those resolutions anyways.
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Anyone who thinks an HD 6970 can outperform a GTX 570 has to do some research. I am not being bias because I have a GTX 570, I say so because a GTX 560 Ti is just a step behind an HD 6970 and when OCed, beats it in most benchmarks.

Also, I still beleive physx is still waiting to be fully utilized and it is not a gimmick, but a way to really make an NVIDIA GPU shine in some games and make the game more interactable
In single card benchmarks, the 6970 trades wins with the 580 so how you can say this is beyond me...



And then when we are talking about crossfire(which in this case we are) the ati cards have way better scaling than SLi and are pretty much guaranteed to out perform 570s/580s in a dual card config. If anyone with some SLi 580s or 570s wants to bench against mine, I'd be more than happy to oblige.
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In single card benchmarks, the 6970 trades wins with the 580 so how you can say this is beyond me...



And then when we are talking about crossfire(which in this case we are) the ati cards have way better scaling than SLi and are pretty much guaranteed to out perform 570s/580s in a dual card config. If anyone with some SLi 580s or 570s wants to bench against mine, I'd be more than happy to oblige.
I'd like to see the link of your review of stats please.

Beyond you huh? Trades wins with the GTX 580? Maybe trades wins with the GTX 570 more like it. Well here are some graphs that show your wrong on every single one and I will back it up with an actual link to prove it on a review of the AMD 6970. The GTX 570 actually competes with the AMD 6970 with the AMD 6970 slighly above it if you average it out.

The GTX 580 is the fastest single GPU money can buy....period.















Read the conclusion on the last page of that above link. Here's a quick qoute..."Overall, the graphics frame rate performance has the AMD Radeon HD 6970 matched nicely to the GeForce GTX 570." Yup you read right they compared it to a GTX 570 because the 580 beats it.

Your right about one thing AMD scales better in crossfire than Nvidia does in SLI getting better gains on their second card. However two GTX 580's will beat two AMD 6970's. If you like I find those benchmarks too.
     
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I'd like to see the link of your review of stats please.

Beyond you huh? Trades wins with the GTX 580? Maybe trades wins with the GTX 570 more like it. Well here are some graphs that show your wrong on every single one and I will back it up with an actual link to prove it on a review of the AMD 6970. The GTX 570 actually competes with the AMD 6970 with the AMD 6970 slighly above it if you average it out.

The GTX 580 is the fastest single GPU money can buy....period.

Read the conclusion on the last page of that above link. Here's a quick qoute..."Overall, the graphics frame rate performance has the AMD Radeon HD 6970 matched nicely to the GeForce GTX 570." Yup you read right they compared it to a GTX 570 because the 580 beats it.

Your right about one thing AMD scales better in crossfire than Nvidia does in SLI getting better gains on their second card. However two GTX 580's will beat two AMD 6970's. If you like I find those benchmarks too.
Wow so a bunch of games which rely on physx. Everyone can cherrypick benchmarks. Like I said though, if someone wants to actually give me some real benchmarks, i'd be happy to share.

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The GTX 580 is the fastest single GPU money can buy....period... for games with PhysX. Fixt.
Oh, heres some from an OCN member: http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9124...-vs-580-a.html
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Wow so a bunch of games which rely on physx. Everyone can cherrypick benchmarks. Like I said though, if someone wants to actually give me some real benchmarks, i'd be happy to share.



Oh, heres some from an OCN member: http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9124...-vs-580-a.html
Well since most of us buy the video cards for games, why would we buy such high end cards otherwise. I'm still right.

Those specs were Eyefinity vs Surround benchmarks, 90% or more of us have single monitors. The rest maybe two or three and about a 1% have six. LOL. That OCN member used an older Nvidia driver vs AMD's current at the time. Not a fair benchmark technically, but that would be a very marginal difference I'm sure anyway in Nvidia's favor. Each driver update brings better gaming results as well as stability and or compatibility. Again marginal so I'd give you that.

Now if your argument would have been running multiple monitors (three or more) the 6970 vs 580 traded wins I would have agreed. AMD's one card runs three monitors vs Nvidia's two per card and AMD does that well. I would not have responded.

Your right on one hand but you used those benchmarks to make a point without being fully honest. ALL those game benchmarks I posted are what most of us are playing on single monitors and the very small percent have six monitors. So most of us don't care otherwise. Also they are real benchmarks.

Finally it's not Nvidia's fault that more and more games are using Physx. It's up to AMD to come out with a way to render those graphics better and push FPS for us better than Nvidia. Just like it's Nvidia's job to find a way to run even three monitors per card and try to do it better.

I did like talking this out with you because I love a good debate so no hard feelings.
     
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