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The GTX570 can and does outperform the HD6970 in many games such as HAWK, Civilization V, Battleforge, Battlefield BC2, and Dirt 2.

See what I did there?
It depends entirely on the game.
I was replying to the ignorant user above who said "Anyone who thinks an HD 6970 can outperform a GTX 570 has to do some research" implying that the HD6970 can't outperform the GTX570 when it can.
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I was replying to the ignorant user above who said "Anyone who thinks an HD 6970 can outperform a GTX 570 has to do some research" implying that the HD6970 can't outperform the GTX570 when it can.
The 6970 does out perform the GTX 570 but only by a slight margin.
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The HD 6970 is better than the GTX 570 in some games, and in those games it is better by a few frames. In situations where the GTX 570 is better than the HD 6970, it is better by much more than a few frames. Also, the GTX 570 still offers superior tessilation performance and PhysX support, and might I mention the compatibility issues AMD/ATI cards have with some games? Yes, I agree that AMD/ATI card scale well but the argument is about single card performance and not SLi/Crossfire (even though the thread states SLi/Crossfire). Also, people seem to compare physX for nVidia and bullet Physics for AMD/ATI, just because the author works for AMD. That is not the case, because unlike physX, bullet physics still supprort optimum support for CUDA technolegy.

Sorry for hurting anyones feelings, I just felt that the GTX 570 had the advantage over the HD 6970 because of the major difference in frames when it does perform better than the AMD card.
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Well since most of us buy the video cards for games, why would we buy such high end cards otherwise. I'm still right.

Those specs were Eyefinity vs Surround benchmarks, 90% or more of us have single monitors. The rest maybe two or three and about a 1% have six. LOL. That OCN member used an older Nvidia driver vs AMD's current at the time. Not a fair benchmark technically, but that would be a very marginal difference I'm sure anyway in Nvidia's favor. Each driver update brings better gaming results as well as stability and or compatibility. Again marginal so I'd give you that.

Now if your argument would have been running multiple monitors (three or more) the 6970 vs 580 traded wins I would have agreed. AMD's one card runs three monitors vs Nvidia's two per card and AMD does that well. I would not have responded.

Your right on one hand but you used those benchmarks to make a point without being fully honest. ALL those game benchmarks I posted are what most of us are playing on single monitors and the very small percent have six monitors. So most of us don't care otherwise. Also they are real benchmarks.

Finally it's not Nvidia's fault that more and more games are using Physx. It's up to AMD to come out with a way to render those graphics better and push FPS for us better than Nvidia. Just like it's Nvidia's job to find a way to run even three monitors per card and try to do it better.

I did like talking this out with you because I love a good debate so no hard feelings.
Well in any case I don't deny the 580 is a good card however, it is only better in some game, not all and like I said before, when you are talking about 2 cards, the AMD cards are better. Also, if you are buying 2 cards, they cost about 300 less. Also, a lot of the benches I have looked at conflict with ones posted in this thread even, so again, if an OCN member would like to post their own benches I'd be happy to run some of my own. Now back to getting my new 950 stableeeeeeeeee....
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What brand are your 6950s unlocked Penryn? I bought 2 xfx 2gb 6950's and unlocked em, but can not use them in crossfire or i crash right when i start BSOD 7E. I want to get amd 6950,s unlocked, but these first 2 just arent running like i thought. whats the thought? Also, i cant even get 950mhz out of em
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What brand are your 6950s unlocked Penryn? I bought 2 xfx 2gb 6950's and unlocked em, but can not use them in crossfire or i crash right when i start BSOD 7E. I want to get amd 6950,s unlocked, but these first 2 just arent running like i thought. whats the thought? Also, i cant even get 950mhz out of em
I have one MSI and one Diamond. Have done a complete driver wipe? Mine are stuck at 900 =/, but then again I haven't messed with voltage. The gains from overclocking these isn't very high so I am happy at 900/1400.
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do ppl need more then 1.3 volts for 950mhz/1450memory usually? or what is the normal voltage for them specs?
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do ppl need more then 1.3 volts for 950mhz/1450memory usually? or what is the normal voltage for them specs?
Mines at 1.15v atm. I haven't upped it because my top card sits too close and the temps can get kindof high.
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Well in any case I don't deny the 580 is a good card however, it is only better in some game, not all and like I said before, when you are talking about 2 cards, the AMD cards are better. Also, if you are buying 2 cards, they cost about 300 less. Also, a lot of the benches I have looked at conflict with ones posted in this thread even, so again, if an OCN member would like to post their own benches I'd be happy to run some of my own. Now back to getting my new 950 stableeeeeeeeee....
Well why you don't believe in those benchmarks that aren't in your favor is just dismal of truth is beyond me. And my point on the bench marks you posted on a six monitor solution is very valid you over looked. The topic was about benchmarks 6970 vs 570's I brought those in spades. My benhmarks were on single monitors where your benchmarks were on six are both accurate both have different outcomes pending your setup and are true. I guess the poster will decide which scenario he or she falls into.

Off topic here is a good thread that explains a bit about dual cards vs single that really shed light on the matter. To the poster and others should give some thought about when choosing crossfire/SLI options or not anyway.

Dual AMD 6870 vs Single GTX 580 - What's the deal?
     
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I expected someone to reply to my post since I made a very solid point in it. Anybody care to reply and show what they think?
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