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can anyone attest to the valadidity to a psu calc, such as the popular http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine , to a kill a watt tester? im in the market for a new psu and am surprised my system is going to need ~700w+ with just one psu :/

also, system im building

i7 950
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also, i have two cold cathodes, running off of a single control module.
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post #2 of 37
Mine fits pretty close to that. When I get home I'll give you a calculation under load

Do you have any video cards in there?
    
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Mine fits pretty close to that. When I get home I'll give you a calculation under load

Do you have any video cards in there?
im currently in the market for the gpu, and the psu. both of which go hand in hand :/
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Originally Posted by Greensystemsgo View Post
im currently in the market for the gpu, and the psu. both of which go hand in hand :/
Well I'll test with my 480 in and you can go from there. UPS should have my kill a watt soon I'll post when I get it
    
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post #5 of 37
Even with a GTX 480/580 in that system, you'd be fine on a good 550W unit. 700W is ridiculous.
post #6 of 37
You can't beat a kill-a-watt with calculations and estimations
    
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Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
You can't beat a kill-a-watt with calculations and estimations
this.

also, i plan on one day sli'ing, but i might wait to get a better psu then, but definetly a corsair now.
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post #8 of 37
My advice is to just buy a PSU with a slightly bigger wattage+amperage so you have some headroom.

If that psucalc websites recommends you buy a 650w PSU. Buy a 750w or 800w
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
My advice is to just buy a PSU with a slightly bigger wattage+amperage so you have some headroom.

If that psucalc websites recommends you buy a 650w PSU. Buy a 750w or 800w
Absolutely not. No.

PSU calculators always overestimate, so adding more margin on top of that is just idiotic.
post #10 of 37
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
Absolutely not. No.

PSU calculators always overestimate, so adding more margin on top of that is just idiotic.
yes, because for good efficiency you do not want to much "head room."

it appears that that 295 uses as much power as a 480, if not a little more, so assuming i use a 295, and the parts listed above, what power supply should i aim for? cause honestly the 1200w is nice and all, but i dont need over kill, i want efficiency, stability, and not to break the bank.
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