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Originally Posted by 2010rig;12415273 
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He just doesn't understand Intel has 3 sockets lined up. Socket 2011 for dual socket workstations, socket 1356 for enthusiasts and socket 1155 for mainstream. He also doesn't understand that Ivy Bridge will be out for all sockets. Socket 1155 will be kicking and alive, while if you buy a Thuban now with an AM3 board, it will be dead by this summer.
 
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Originally Posted by Metal425;12414233 
2500K or wait for Bulldozer.

Not saying I am an Intel fanboy or anything, but when you ask the Intel section, the majority of people are going to recommend the Intel CPU over the AMD CPU.

IMHO, wait for Bulldozer and see how it does.

This is the best logical answer anyone can give you...

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Originally Posted by Cam3ron;12415285 
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I just don't even know where to begin with your post that's all.

Let's see, the 2500k is only $30 more over the 1090T, and after seeing this:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=146

That's $30 well spent.

In that chart, I think I saw the 1090T slightly ahead in 3 instances, everything else the 2500k spanked the 1090T.

2500k can do 5.0 GHZ on AIR.

Clock for clock the 2500k is better.

There are also sub P67 motherboards that are solid, like the P8P67 Pro, and not to mention that Ivy Bridge processors will be available on 1155 as well.

So ... why would anyone choose a 1090T over a 2500k is beyond me.

Some people are ok with sub-par performance, but when the difference between both processors is $30, perhaps you know something I don't know.
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Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129;12415320 
He just doesn't understand Intel has 3 sockets lined up. Socket 2011 for dual socket workstations, socket 1356 for enthusiasts and socket 1155 for mainstream. He also doesn't understand that Ivy Bridge will be out for all sockets. Socket 1155 will be kicking and alive, while if you buy a Thuban now with an AM3 board, it will be dead by this summer.

Thats what I am talking about, the shear fact that Thuban will be dead soon. It is a decent processor now, it isn't expensive. If he doesn't want to wait for bulldozer, then he should buy a cheaper platform now and upgrade when AMD releases the Phenom III X8 (Whatever the name is) or Intel when the 1356 Socket CPUs are released.

And I don't know if you've noticed or not, but noone is using LGA 775, cause that it (technically) Intel's current mainstream processor. I am just taking a fairly educated guess that a similar thing will happen to the 1155 (even though it replaces the 1156).

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Originally Posted by 2010rig;12415351 
I just don't even know where to begin with your post that's all.

Let's see, the 2500k is only $30 more over the 1090T, and after seeing this:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=146

That's $30 well spent.

In that chart, I think I saw the 1090T slightly ahead in 3 instances, everything else the 2500k spanked the 1090T.

2500k can do 5.0 GHZ on AIR.

Clock for clock the 2500k is better.

There are also sub $250 P67 motherboards that are solid, like the P8P67 Pro.

So ... why would anyone choose a 1090T over a 2500k is beyond me.

Some people are ok with sub-par performance, but when the difference between both processors is $30, perhaps you know something I don't know.

Nah I am not talking about the 1090T, talking about the 1055T ($80 difference).
Edited by Cam3ron - 2/16/11 at 9:00pm
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Originally Posted by 2010rig;12415351 
I just don't even know where to begin with your post that's all.

Let's see, the 2500k is only $30 more over the 1090T, and after seeing this:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=146

That's $30 well spent.

In that chart, I think I saw the 1090T slightly ahead in 3 instances, everything else the 2500k spanked the 1090T.

2500k can do 5.0 GHZ on AIR.

Clock for clock the 2500k is better.

There are also sub $250 P67 motherboards that are solid, like the P8P67 Pro.

So ... why would anyone choose a 1090T over a 2500k is beyond me.

This, Cam3ron you might wanna go back and re-read that anandtech link. Go for the 2500K or play the waiting game until bulldozer releases, but if your gonna do that you might as well wait for the 22nm die shrink IB.
 
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post #36 of 59
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Originally Posted by nagle3092;12415408 
This, Cam3ron you might wanna go back and re-read that anandtech link. Go for the 2500K or play the waiting game until bulldozer releases, but if your gonna do that you might as well wait for the 22nm die shrink IB.

Ugh... Not talking about performance, talking about what happens when either Bulldozer or 1355 are released...

Not really taking a side here, just trying to help him make a practical decision that isn't based on the best performance, but more on the best upgrade.

The 2500k is a better performer vs the 1090T, but it is way more costly to upgrade from it to an i7 5600k (my naming guess) than from a 1055T to a 5600k.
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Originally Posted by Cam3ron;12415166 
Hey I noticed everyone is recommending the fastest CPU...
But to be honest your not doing anything serious, and if you are a die-hard gamer, then you want to save cash for a crazy graphics card. An AMD Platform with an Nvidia (best price/performance) card will run you about $500. So um, I can't recommend the 2500k, unless you want to get it up to 5GHz just for the heck of it.

In terms of future proofness, the 2500k is definitely not future proof see. So I would probably fix yourself up with a sub $250 MB and CPU (possibly 1055T + 880G).

Anyways, for now it looks like you might be more happy with the AMD because it will probably cost less in the future to upgrade.

Yeah, save money on the cpu and watch your high end gpus throttle down waiting for your crappy cpu to send it information.

The "save money on the cpu to get a better gpu" only works if the cheaper cpu doesn't take performance away from your gpu.



$226 for a cpu cheap $120 board, hey look... Enough for a gtx 560 or a gtx 470, and you'll get better performance than the AMD system... But wait, theres more... Spend a few more for a slightly better mobo with x8 x8 sli and later down the line you won't see your gpus at 30% usage, hooray for not skimping out!
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Yeah, save money on the cpu and watch your high end gpus throttle down waiting for your crappy cpu to send it information.

The "save money on the cpu to get a better gpu" only works if the cheaper cpu doesn't take performance away from your gpu.

Um. I don't know what to say. Read page 3.

Also, that method only applies when your GPU is like a 5970 and your CPU is an Athlon XP. Not when your GPU is a 5970 and your CPU is either a Phenom II X6 1055T or an i5 2500k. Check a GPU isolating benchmark.
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Nah I am not talking about the 1090T, talking about the 1055T ($80 difference).

I see, ok - but the thread title is: I5 2500k or 1090T This leads me to believe that he's looking at AMD's best offerings vs Intel's umm 3rd best?

1055 vs 2500k
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=288

In the whole grand scheme of things, when you're putting an entire computer together, $80 is not a big difference, compared to the sheer performance gains.

Plus, going AMD now and upgrading to BD will STILL require a new motherboard plus CPU. So I still don't understand the logic behind that, as the resell value will be pretty low when BD is out.

If he has time, best advice would be to wait it out for Bulldozer, and not build anything at all, instead of building an AMD rig.

If you can't wait and need to build something, the 2500k is solid, it has an upgrade path with IB processors, and right NOW, there's nothing AMD has to offer that comes close to the 2500K in both price/performance.

Besides there's enough evidence around here that shows AMD's processors bottlenecking High End GPU's, and you'll never have that issue with the 2500K.

Just ask ballathefeared for some proof, he switched from a 1090T because it was bottlenecking a 470!
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Originally Posted by Cam3ron;12415400 
And I don't know if you've noticed or not, but noone is using LGA 775, cause that it (technically) Intel's current mainstream processor. I am just taking a fairly educated guess that a similar thing will happen to the 1155 (even though it replaces the 1156).

You do realize that 1155 Sandy Bridge IS Intel's current Mainstream platform right?

The previous mainstream platform would be 1156. You're a couple generations behind my friend.

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Originally Posted by Cam3ron;12415458 
Ugh... Not talking about performance, talking about what happens when either Bulldozer or 1355 are released...

Not really taking a side here, just trying to help him make a practical decision that isn't based on the best performance, but more on the best upgrade.

The 2500k is a better performer vs the 1090T, but it is way more costly to upgrade from it to an i7 5600k (my naming guess) than from a 1055T to a 5600k.

Please stop. I'm not bashing you.
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Originally Posted by Cam3ron;12415516 
Um. I don't know what to say. Read page 3.

Also, that method only applies when your GPU is like a 5970 and your CPU is an Athlon XP. Not when your GPU is a 5970 and your CPU is either a Phenom II X6 1055T or an i5 2500k. Check a GPU isolating benchmark.

Hey there guy with no knowledge, please delighten us with your misinformation more.
    
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