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1 failure is not a trend.....
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1 failure is not a trend.....
I'm glad I'm not the only one that see's this.
 
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that see's this.
I am glad that you guys don't see the trend with MSI boards failing.
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That would be two failures on boards just about sharing VRM design. Though you are right about the failure =/= trend thing, but MSI boards have been particularly known to have issues with VRM quality; I am indeed waiting on more failures to happen before I make serious adjustments in my suggestions.

It should be kept in mind that adding phases may not necessarily solve the problem of having low quality MOSFETs and no OCP. Though to be splitting the load over a wider amount of parts does take off a lot of that load.
Edited by xd_1771 - 5/12/11 at 7:47pm
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here, i'll make a comparison like yours:

Chew* killed his Giga UD5.

Pioneer (and others) also killed a Giga, although it was a really low end board.

THE UD5 IS NOW A TERRIBLE BOARD WITH FAIL VRM's WE MUST CONDEMN THEIR ENTIRE LINE!!!!!!!11


Doesn't make sense to me either
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That would be two failures on boards just about sharing VRM design. Though you are right about the failure =/= trend thing, but MSI boards have been particularly known to have issues with VRM quality; I am indeed waiting on more failures to happen before I make serious adjustments in my suggestions.

It should be kept in mind that adding phases may not necessarily solve the problem of having low quality MOSFETs and no OCP. Though to be splitting the load over a wider amount of parts does take off a lot of that load.
isn't it the poor chokes used which causes the vrm failure?
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isn't it the poor chokes used which causes the vrm failure?
That was pointed out from a guy on Intel forums concerning how VRMs may fail.

@reflex: The Gigabyte board problem is limited to fewer boards of much, much older design than the UD5, and as for Gigabyte there is no widespread problem. As for MSI, the problem appears widespread and to do with more than just amount of phases but also MOSFET quality and lack of OCP. It seems justifiable that an improvement in one thing (amount of phases) may not result in the improvement in another; I think we can go by a rule of thumb that a VRM system is only strong as its weakest segment.
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I was using giga as an example.

I was likening it to what you are doing with MSI.
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Actually, the low end Gigabyte boards DO have a trend of failure. Which is why I do not recommend Gigabyte boards. Well, that mixed with their LACK of customer service.

If you look at ANY of the low level 7x0 series boards, they're all the same. All of the 3+1 boards are. 760G, 780G, and 785G all share that same problem. I know, they did improve the design a little with a later revision, on I believe the 785G. But that doesn't change their older ones.
 
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The cheapest choices from Gigabyte mobos would be from UD3 series up of course.I wouldn t go lower for normal usage what to say about overclocking..
Unfortunatelly in the AMD mobo business MSI does t have a clear range split.The AMD range seems very poor quality wise no matter the price range ,at least for the moment.
   
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