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#1) Get Some Coffee (3 page article)
#2) Keep an open mind
#3) Be prepared to be schooled hard...

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Free software isn’t about free services or beer, it’s about intellectual freedom. As recent episodes such as censorship in China, the Egyptian government turning off the Internet, and Facebook’s constant spying, have shown, freedom and privacy on the Internet are under constant assault. Now Eben Moglen, law professor at Columbia University and renowned free software legal expert, has proposed a way to combine free software with the original peer-to-peer (P2P) design of the Internet to liberate users from the control of governments and big brother-like companies: Freedom Box.

In a recent Freedom in the Clouds speech in NYC, Moglen explained what he sees as the Internet’s current problems and his proposed solution. First, here’s the trouble with the Internet today as Moglen sees it:
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My Conclusion = A Rare & Good Read Indeed!

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The person the Author is writing about made a suggestions about this device,The TonidoPlug Portable Compact Home Server ($99!), which seems extremely useful indeed! The funny thing is, what he is talking about was rolling through my mind this week (true story), and his vision of a LOCAL Intranet is awesome....

Down with the reliance on big servers, more private Peer 2 Peer & Torrent sharing, kudos to his logic! OMG THIS IS COULD BE HUGE!

Here is a critical read for people who want ideas on how to best use such a device, I'm sure we can come up with some other uses ourselves (please share your thoughts & ideas as well), thanks..
Hackers Weigh In: 8 Big Things to Do with a Mini Server





Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex 2TB USB 2.0 Black External Hard Drive STAC2000100 ($130) I can see 2 of these for 4 TB of data @ $240 being a very viable data center (7200 RPM too!), oh yeah! With these plugin Servers you could access the data anywhere, and it wouldn't even cost a lot of money to run these!

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One of the biggest viable uses & values I can see of these great devices is...

Accessing your MP3s / MP4s / Videos on almost any device from anywhere, as staying connected to your data through Phone / Work Computers / iPad / Latop / PSP 1 or 2 / or whatever device, and sharing it with your family seems like a MAJOR WIN to me for all of $99, wow...

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The collective clock is ticking! Technology is advancing much faster now...


A New Way To Faster & Cheaper Wireless


I sure hope this develops quickly and evolves in to wide range wifi... Radio Wave Wifi would be HUGE!
Edited by _GTech - 2/17/11 at 5:39pm
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sounds like a good read indeed
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This sounds it could go into an entire book. Read the article, and it seems good, but I think we are too structured on the server/client basis to go purely peer-based internet.

What about joining websites? There is no chance of hosting that on a TonidoPlug. Plus the ping to get anywhere would be enormous.

Unless I'm missing a part of the article? Is it saying we introduce more peer-based networking for everything, but only if the main line was shut off?


If this was developed into further reading I would definitely pick it up.
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The person the Author is writing about made a suggestions about this device,The TonidoPlug Portable Compact Home Server ($99!), which seems extremely useful indeed! The funny thing is, what he is talking about was rolling through my mind this week (true story), and his vision of a LOCAL Intranet is awesome....

Down with the reliance on big servers, more private Peer 2 Peer & Torrent sharing, kudos to his logic! OMG THIS IS HUGE!
Better: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.c...ugdetails.aspx
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Thanks DuckieHo

What kind of uses do you guys see for these small plug in peer based servers?

Neighborhood networking maybe?
Edited by _GTech - 2/17/11 at 8:03am
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I am all for this, and would hop on board in a heartbeat. The problem comes in with the fact that "Once everyone's buying them..29$" will never happen with this.

Unless this system is made idiot proof, it will never garner the huge audiences facebook has.

This is exactly why Linux is taking so long to take off into mainstream, it is not user friendly to laymen.

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hate to be the pessimist. I really like the idea.
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I am all for this, and would hop on board in a heartbeat. The problem comes in with the fact that "Once everyone's buying them..29$" will never happen with this.

Unless this system is made idiot proof, it will never garner the huge audiences facebook has.

This is exactly why Linux is taking so long to take off into mainstream, it is not user friendly to laymen.

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hate to be the pessimist. I really like the idea.
There is a very fine difference between pessimism & realism, you are very correct in some of your statements, security is always the #1 issue with any server, especially when it comes to the home or business networks...

But I don't really trust Facebook, despite it's security, putting your info out there has never been a wise choice in my eyes.. I see these social sites as a metamorphism from forums into boards where people are used to garnish what is known as Information, which if you didn't know it, that information is powerful and obviously very valuable.. (I recently read an article about Facebook to become the most valuable web site of the future...)

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Here is information taken from the TonidoPlug website on the device they offer, maybe we can have a discussion about this?


TonidoPlug offers a compelling alternative to cloud storage services and distributes inexpensive computing power to every home. TonidoPlug can act as a low power, low cost server for homes with multiple computers and as a collaboration and file server for small businesses.

Keeping true to Tonido's mission - "Empower customers in a connected world" -TonidoPlug offers universal access to your files, music and media from anywhere without sacrificing privacy, control and ownership of your data.

Highlights

* Energy efficient green device
* Convert your USB drive to Network Attached Storage accessible as a networked drive
* Access your TonidoPlug using own URL (http://yourname.tonidoid.com)
* Share and sync files, photos and music without uploading
* Drag-and-Drop file and folder uploading to your TonidoPlug from Windows, Linux, OSX from remote locations via WebDAV
* Listen to your MP3s from anywhere
* Download Torrents to your USB drive from anywhere
* Search and download your files
* Manage your calendar, contacts, and tasks
* Keep a personal blog, capture and store web snippets
* Automatic or Manual Backup of all your computers to TonidoPlug
* Stream media to the XBox 360 and PS3 o.O
* Access and share files using an iPhone-specific Tonido web app
* Extend your TonidoPlug with new apps from Tonido App store

I'm analyzing this device and will come back later to give my conclusion, so far it looks like a nice device and may have a use still yet!

OK, I found a good article from the big Hackers at MIT & Other institutions who were asked how they would use such a device..

I'll post it in the Original Post as well..

Hackers Weigh In: 8 Big Things to Do with a Mini Server

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Share is the biggest word these Plug-In Servers present to me...

I wonder how many people can log into this server & use the data stored in the external hard drive simultaneously, anyone know or care to guess???
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Free internet means = no control for terroism and crime.

I am surprised how people get happy about this,without evaluating the consequences. because of their personal preference and and giving squat about the entire internet community.

Internet must be controlled .
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Free internet means = no control for terroism and crime.

I am surprised how people get happy about this,without evaluating the consequences. because of their personal preference and and giving squat about the entire internet community.

Internet must be controlled .
When you find a surefire method to control terrorism and crime, governments for the past 2k+ years will thank you.

Controlling the internet is not going to fix terrorism and crime, one is human nature and the other is generally political/greed/religious motivated...
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Free internet means = no control for terroism and crime.

I am surprised how people get happy about this,without evaluating the consequences. because of their personal preference and and giving squat about the entire internet community.

Internet must be controlled .
Controlled Internet still provides little control for terroism and crime. However, it provides a plenty of control for the innocent masses....


See: Burma, China, Cuba, Egypt, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Vietnam
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