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Is a wifi neighborhood network possible then?

I believe the little box offers VPN, if I'm not mistaken, to what degree though I don't know...
Well the way that the article proposes if a client gets shut down it would reroute like just Backbone routers do now. I dont see this happening with a wifi network unless every single person on a given street was using very powerful wireless devices to overlap signals.
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Well the way that the article proposes if a client gets shut down it would reroute like just Backbone routers do now. I dont see this happening with a wifi network unless every single person on a given street was using very powerful wireless devices to overlap signals.
Like Wireless N+, but this would not be cheap for a neighborhood as at least every 2 to 3 hours would need one...

Then there is the new Radio Wave Wifi being developed, this could very well be the answer to a Wifi Local WAN...

You know the government(s) aren't going to allow Neighborhoods to start stringing up cable, no way, lol...

Open Neighborhood Networks > Internet.... Because it brings local communities together....

No need to go garage sale shopping, view it all in the neighborhood network...

Community News Network > Local News Channel... Information would be NOW not and filtered or censored...
Edited by _GTech - 2/17/11 at 2:28pm
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Like Wireless N+, but this would not be cheap for a neighborhood as at least every 2 to 3 hours would need one...

Then there is the new Radio Wave Wifi being developed, this could very well be the answer to a Wifi Local WAN...

You know the government(s) aren't going to allow Neighborhoods to start stringing up cable, no way, lol...
There are ways to do this wirelessly but theres still convincing people to buy a 99 dollar little server plus a high powered wireless system. Best bet would to be to use the ISPs and use a VPN of all clients and have every hotspot with one. That would be a huge help until other problems can get solutions.
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I'd be willing to venture to say this will soon become reality, just look at what is happening in Canada, Egypt, and other countries?

You don't need an ISP's lines to create an Intranet...


An Extranet on the other hand could afford very expensive Internet...
(Depending upon what that Extranet had on it's server or what services it provided)
You clearly don't understand what's happening in Canada.

The charging for usage wasn't to the end user, it was to smaller ISP's.

I.E. A large ISP, such as bell, sells bandwidth to a small ISP aka Terabyte.

The small isp offers unlimited access for 30 dollars, bell has limited bandwidth for 50 dollars.

now with the new law passed bell charges the small isp for the access, and as a result the unlimited plan will cause their costs to skyrocket and they wont be able to afford it forcing them to close their doors and cause a monopoly between large isp's.

And it should be noted that the Canadian government told the CRTC to change it back, or they will change it back for them.
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There are ways to do this wirelessly but theres still convincing people to buy a 99 dollar little server plus a high powered wireless system. Best bet would to be to use the ISPs and use a VPN of all clients and have every hotspot with one. That would be a huge help until other problems can get solutions.
I think I see more clearly now what you are trying to say, this is all truly unfeasible at best...

Maybe they are just trying to pull one over on the consumers..

Sell the Data Centers to the Consumer...

Lol

Anyway, I still think on a personal use level the device is nice...

Creating a WAN or Extranet on it may be viable with the use of Internet, but if Internet access is down or increases a lot in cost or is capped tremendously, then what?

We need to figure out solutions today... truly..
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ya'll talk about human nature but the internet is something very artificial... online terrorism networking is very controllable- as is organized crime of all sorts.

These home servers are great, I def want one just to mess around with, but the change has to be on so much larger of a scale than just every house having one of these. New regulatory departments, laws, ISP fee's etc. Nothing is free. Sure its nice to put whatever u want on da intrawebz, but you still gotta get there somehow.
    
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The product is very thought provocative, cheap, and looks like a very viable use for a data server which you can connect to from virtually anywhere with (almost?) any device...

For the cost of the Plug-In Server & a 2 TB HDD ($80 @ MicroCenter), you are free to roam & access your drive from anywhere, use the VPN feature & you can remote right into your monster /beastly desktop from your latop and use the software on it instead of your weak laptop...

Man, this little box has me like loving the computer world suddenly...

Now on the Internet topic, well, maybe one day we can cut the hard lines...

No, nothing is free, but reducing cost significantly would be a start... (agreed?)

If these little Plug In Servers drop down to $50 that would be irresistible to many computer consumers surely... I could sell these all day to small businesses....

The ability to work on your office computer from anywhere is invaluable! Especially if you travel a lot... Wifi will improve eventually, we will have Radio Wave Wifi not too far in the distant future, and that will be where it will all begin..

Capped Internet, No Internet, and hackers are us computer users' biggest problem...

Unfortunately these problems are growing faster than solutions are being shelled out..

A Linux Based Server / Embedded OS is like godsend! Hack this! Encryption to boot! Woot!

I cannot say enough about this Plug In Server Box, but one thing is for sure I"m going to be getting one SOON... Once I figure out what I can do with this mad evil design I'll get back to you all..
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You clearly don't understand what's happening in Canada.

The charging for usage wasn't to the end user, it was to smaller ISP's.

I.E. A large ISP, such as bell, sells bandwidth to a small ISP aka Terabyte.

The small isp offers unlimited access for 30 dollars, bell has limited bandwidth for 50 dollars.

now with the new law passed bell charges the small isp for the access, and as a result the unlimited plan will cause their costs to skyrocket and they wont be able to afford it forcing them to close their doors and cause a monopoly between large isp's.

And it should be noted that the Canadian government told the CRTC to change it back, or they will change it back for them.
actually companies are/were rolling out overage charges to consumers. I dumped shaw because $2.00/GB is a massive ripoff.
    
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I wonder if the client user has to download and install software in order to access this Tolido Plug Server? Anyone?
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I use an original sheevaplug as my torrent box, downloading to/from my NAS. and I use a guruplug as my router... but you need to be good with linux +/- compling stuff.
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