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ok so im trying to make a new computer that will play most games available now and those in the near future

got most of this build from a friend but one of the sticking points is the graphics card.. he suggest i get the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card but its just not really in the budget right now

the computer i have built below is slightly over budget.. was wondering what you guys would alter to bring cost down a little bit but still keep the computer able to perform well

any suggestions would be great, thank you for your help

oh and one more thing, building it myself is not an option... tried that once and failed miserably so i need someone/somewhere that will build the pc for me

* *BASE_PRICE: [+699]
* BLUETOOTH: None
* CARE1: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
* CAS: * CoolerMaster 690 II Advanced Mid-Tower Gaming Case [+37] (Black Color)
* CASUPGRADE: None
* CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
* CD2: None
* CPU: AMD Phenomâ„¢II X4 955 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+46]
* CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Blue Color)
* FA_HDD: None
* FAN: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK [-20]
* FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
* FLOPPY: None
* FREEGAME_VC02: None
* GLASSES: None
* HDD: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-41] (Single Hard Drive)
* HDD2: None
* IEEE_CARD: None
* KEYBOARD: None [-4]
* MB_ADDON: None
* MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
* MONITOR: None
* MONITOR2: None
* MONITOR3: None
* MOTHERBOARD: Asus M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI Chipset DDR3 ATX w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394, SATA-II, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI [+63]
* MOUSE: None [-3]
* MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
* NCSW: None
* NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
* OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
* POWERSUPPLY: * 750 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-750TX 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+87]
* RUSH: 5% Instant Rebate for Non-Rush Delivery Order over $999 - Ships within 3 Weeks - Must Enter Coupon Code "NORUSH" during checkout
* SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
* SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
* SPEAKERS: None [-5]
* TEMP: None
* TVRC: None
* USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
* USBFLASH: None
* USBHD: None
* USBX: None
* VC_PHYSX: None
* VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+97] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
* VIDEO2: None
* VIDEO3: None
* WNC: None
* _PRICE: (+1094)
* _view_: d
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Where are you buying that?

Edit: You really can't build it yourself? these forums are loaded with tutorials and pictures.. it's like lego! You'd be able to buy everything from newegg, ncix, etc. and save a bundle!
Edited by Phoriver - 2/16/11 at 10:17pm
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Where are you buying that?
cyberpower... unless you know something i dont lol

i tried that... i got tripped up when it came to getting the ram to work, soent time on the phone with both corsair and asus as well as a friend and i couldnt get the thing to load up with both sticks of ram
Edited by xtw1st3dxang3lx - 2/16/11 at 10:21pm
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Kingston 96 gb SSD & 1 TB WD Caviar Black Light ON dual layer Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit Acer S231HLbid Black 23" 
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post #4 of 10
I've heard many horror stories about cyberpower (or ibuypower), both build and warranty related. I'd bet you could build it yourself with the same failure rate.

I've heard good things about http://www.falcon-nw.com/ though their prices are a bit steep (though I haven't compared them to cyberpower, just compared to building something yourself). Then again, you know you'll get something built well.

Welcome to OCN! And honestly, you CAN build it yourself. Some advantages include knowing your computer inside and out, being able to select any component you wish, often lower prices, and a bit more 'attachment' to it when you are finished. Also, any maintenance you need to do will be much easier if you put it together the first time. But if you don't want to/can't/don't have time it is perfectly acceptable.


edit: I should also add that the 5850 is still a great card. I owned one for a while and only upgraded for rendering. It handled any games and whatever else I threw at it just fine.
Edited by IEATFISH - 2/16/11 at 10:21pm
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I've heard many horror stories about cyberpower (or ibuypower), both build and warranty related. I'd bet you could build it yourself with the same failure rate.

I've heard good things about http://www.falcon-nw.com/ though their prices are a bit steep (though I haven't compared them to cyberpower, just compared to building something yourself). Then again, you know you'll get something built well.

Welcome to OCN! And honestly, you CAN build it yourself. Some advantages include knowing your computer inside and out, being able to select any component you wish, often lower prices, and a bit more 'attachment' to it when you are finished. Also, any maintenance you need to do will be much easier if you put it together the first time. But if you don't want to/can't/don't have time it is perfectly acceptable.


edit: I should also add that the 5850 is still a great card. I owned one for a while and only upgraded for rendering. It handled any games and whatever else I threw at it just fine.
would you suggest anything different ? or is that pretty much the best in the price range?

and as far as building it myself ... i basically had the computer built.. just couldnt get the dual channel ram to work.. got one stick to work, just coulndt get both to load up... even got all the way to installing windows with the single stick
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post #6 of 10
build it urself using the gazillion tutorials here on OCN u will not regret it
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i know i SHOULD build itmyself, but i tried once and failed miserably... i cant bring myself to do it again

already had to rma about $1000 worth of parts to newegg
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i know i SHOULD build itmyself, but i tried once and failed miserably... i cant bring myself to do it again

already had to rma about $1000 worth of parts to newegg
1000$ oh i thought u only had bad experience with 1 bad stick of ram which can happen to anyone ...
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what had happend was i ordered one set of ram, was having problems with it.. so i ordered a new set... still having the same problem

got on the phone with newegg and got them to wave all the return fees

the 1000 bucks comes from the list below, plus 80 bucks for a set of corsair ram

i was basically trying to get the same system built for me, but because i need to have it built i know its gonna cost more so im trying to cut down cost a bit but not lose too much functionality

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$139.99
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$349.99
1 x ($89.99) PSU CORSAIR|CMPSU-650TX 650W RT
$89.99
1 x ($148.99) CPU AMD|PH II X4 955 3.2G AM3 RT
$148.99
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$59.99
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those are good prices i guess ..
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