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Athlon II X3 or X4 with a dedicated graphics card. Integrated would work, but moving to separate vram with separate processing will speed up Windows performance and videos and flash content online. Doesn't need a gaming card, but a HTPC style card would be good. Could look for a 5550/5570 or a 430, both pretty good htpc cards. Does he have an HDTV to pass audio through to, maybe if he wants to stream netflix? He could definitely use more graphics power and less processing power compared to the phenom ii x4 on integrated.
Edited by RichardS - 2/17/11 at 4:46pm
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Athlon II X3 or X4 with a dedicated graphics card. Integrated would work, but moving to separate vram with separate processing will speed up Windows performance and videos and flash content online. Doesn't need a gaming card, but a HTPC style card would be good. Could look for a 5550/5570 or a 430, both pretty good htpc cards. Does he have an HDTV to pass audio through to, maybe if he wants to stream netflix?
Actually, the 4200 series is awesome. I used an HD 4200 last summer for gaming. I could run Just Cause 2 at all low settings and it was playable. You could sure as hell watch HD movies at 1920x1080 or even 2560x1440 if you wanted.
    
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Actually, the 4200 series is awesome. I used an HD 4200 last summer for gaming. I could run Just Cause 2 at all low settings and it was playable. You could sure as hell watch HD movies at 1920x1080 or even 2560x1440 if you wanted.
Yeah not saying integrated won't work well. It would be more than enough for a functional computer. But I wouldn't spend 500 dollars to build a functional computer with integrated graphics; I'd spend less than that.

For the 500 dollar budget, a dedicated card would be more of an improvement than a top of the line Phenom II processor. IMO a nice, quality component, cool running htpc.
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post #24 of 39

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Pick your flavor... however the clarkdale will be faster for most day to day usage.

also if you can spare the 30 dollars pick up the cooler master hyper 212+
It's a great heat sink for the money.
You could fudge around maybe squeeze in a small ssd (30 gb) for windows + office, and move the user directory to a different drive. But that will be tough to pull off in your budget.
At 600 you could probably have it all.
Edited by avddreamr - 2/17/11 at 5:18pm
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Pick your flavor... however the clarkdale will be faster for most day to day usage.
The HIS Silence 5550 in the clarkdale build.
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Only because of the $500 budget will I suggest a build exactly like my sig rig. I've had no problems with any of it (though the provided power supply in the case had horrible reviews it's done fine, but I wouldn't trust it with an extra videocard for gaming/rendering).
Other than getting better ram a blu-ray and a mobo that had support for sata6/usb3 I couldn't be happier. (all of which would have been an extra $200 total)
As far as future proofing. If there are no games being played, and usb3/sata6 is omitted(seeing as hardly anything currently can max either sataII or usb2). The only thing I'd suggest is using an ssd if he doesn't download lots of things.
Edit- As others said, if he is only using the machine to surf the web check his email and the like. You could make a machine for much less than $500 with an x2 that would do everything he wanted for a few years just fine.
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Hello Avddreamr,

8GB RAM unnecessary (can be upgraded later if something comes up, no indications that it is even close to needed at this time).

500W PSU unnecessary (can save $10-20 here on something a little lighter weight but still well made)

The passively cooled HIS seems to have a high failure rate. Like the concept though.

The HEC case you have selected (or other similar HEC cases) is available in a $10 combo savings with a DVD burner.

The A770E3 would actually be my pick for this build (I use it, works fine, and the unit shipping is quite a bit better than the specs on the egg) if I hadn't spotted that Asus combo, when that combo expires, then the A770E3 should be incorporated with a combo special.

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Mdocod... hmm
Let me see if i can find a better way to utilize those resources.. hold up.

530 after rebate.
You get an unlocked quad core, a solid state 500gb 7200rpm drive.

You get a worse video card, but that doesn't matter unless you are gaming... and no aftermarket heatsink.

but key thing.. dedicated video card, quad core, and ssd in a 530 dollar build.

You can do Clarkdale also for more or less the same amount of money. refer to my previous post for the relevant cpu and motherboard.

You can splurge, at 650 you get a i5-760... It's a balancing act.
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Definitely try not to get anything 1333 CL9 or 1333 CL8. 1333 CL9 more than 1.5V... avoid if at all possible no matter what price. Many 1600 CL9 or 1333 CL7 kits can be (or have been before) found at same or better price than generics. I urge you, invest in it.
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The 125w Phenom II X4 is really overkill. The L3 will not help performance in the majority of applications this computer will be used for, and will generate significant extra heat. An Athlon II X4 would cost less money, generate less heat, and be just as powerful in the majority of cases. If you are set on a Phenom II X4 I would suggest the 820 OEM on newegg for 105. Less money and only 95w tdp vs the 125w on the other Phenom II X4s. The heat generated by an overclocked Phenom II X4 125w is significant vs AMD's 95w offerings. Also the 95w chip will use less electricity and be less $$ on the electric bill.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103824

Newegg is out of stock of most of the Athlon II X4s, and the only one currently stocked (the 645) is more expensive than the 820 Phenom II X4 95w.

Combine the 820 with a nice aftermarket cooler with a fan with speed control and the cpu will stay nice and cool for a long life, while being much quieter than the AMD stock cooler.
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