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post #1 of 10
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Dear all
I have just started on the long and arduous process of building a PC for the first time. Not for myself, I have a laptop that works quite nicely thank you, but for my parents. Theirs will be celebrating it's eighth birthday this summer and I've come to the conclusion that its time for an overhaul.
That its lasted so long is tribute to the fine work of Mr Paul Reddy, Paul Reddy take a bow thank you. His superlative work in building a desktop that has lasted so long (and for only £650 mind you) has allowed me to stave off the inevitable up until now.
But no longer, now I will build a new PC, for around £500 and it is going to work properly god damn it. It will have all the basic requirements and it is not going to crash or go blue screen on me.
Alas, I have a vague idea of how to go about it, but there is one thing that is scaring the hell out of me at present. That is the design stage. I have been advised (by a friend that is top rate programmer) that I should set out, on paper, the make and specifications of every component before I buy a single one.
All fair enough and logical, yet though I have a vague idea of how and why each component relates to each other, I don't know exactly. What I am talking about here is numbers. For example:-
A CPU with n cores and x processor speed should go with RAM with y megs and DDR whatever. Thus I can know categorically what goes with what and I can design accordingly.
That is what I'm after. The only problem is, I don't know where to look.
Any help here will be greatly appreciated.
post #2 of 10
If your parents aren't going to overclock, play games, stress test, render movies/videos, use 3d applications, etc. Buy them a prebuilt PC.

I don't think it's worth building a PC to load Facebook 2 seconds faster.

Welcome to OCN, by the way.
post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by Barciad View Post
Dear all
I have just started on the long and arduous process of building a PC for the first time. Not for myself, I have a laptop that works quite nicely thank you, but for my parents. Theirs will be celebrating it's eighth birthday this summer and I've come to the conclusion that its time for an overhaul.
That its lasted so long is tribute to the fine work of Mr Paul Reddy, Paul Reddy take a bow thank you. His superlative work in building a desktop that has lasted so long (and for only £650 mind you) has allowed me to stave off the inevitable up until now.
But no longer, now I will build a new PC, for around £500 and it is going to work properly god damn it. It will have all the basic requirements and it is not going to crash or go blue screen on me.
Alas, I have a vague idea of how to go about it, but there is one thing that is scaring the hell out of me at present. That is the design stage. I have been advised (by a friend that is top rate programmer) that I should set out, on paper, the make and specifications of every component before I buy a single one.
All fair enough and logical, yet though I have a vague idea of how and why each component relates to each other, I don't know exactly. What I am talking about here is numbers. For example:-
A CPU with n cores and x processor speed should go with RAM with y megs and DDR whatever. Thus I can know categorically what goes with what and I can design accordingly.
That is what I'm after. The only problem is, I don't know where to look.
Any help here will be greatly appreciated.
Props on wanting to do it on your own. With that budget ur going to want to go amd as there CPUs are cheaper. That being said your going to need:
CPU
Motherboard
Ram
Video card
Power supply
Hard drive
Case
Optical or cd drive

And probably

Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
Operating system

Give me a little but and I'll throw a build together. Do you by chance know what supplier you will be using for parts?
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by mastertrixter View Post
Props on wanting to do it on your own. With that budget ur going to want to go amd as there CPUs are cheaper. That being said your going to need:
CPU
Motherboard
Ram
Video card
Power supply
Hard drive
Case
Optical or cd drive

And probably

Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
Operating system

Give me a little but and I'll throw a build together. Do you by chance know what supplier you will be using for parts?
The monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers are all perfectly fine from the last one. As for operating system, Windows 7 it will probably be.
As for supplier, the parts for the old one were ordered online from a Coventry based firm called Eclipse. Seeing as they have stood the test of time, I am highly tempted to use that firm again.
post #5 of 10
You could do a bare bones kit, if it's for your parents there not going need a Ferrari just a nice sedan. There is also the question of availability from your location but worth a look.
post #6 of 10
Im going to suggest a low-power intel ion desktop.

I will expand on thks tomorrow. Its 12 here
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post #7 of 10
go with a q9550 quad from intel pricey but worth it
find a lga775 mb that takes dddr3 like the evga 790i digital
mushkin makes great ram at a great price get the ddr3 1600 4gig kit
and then shop for a video card if you can find a used gtx260 ud be gold
about a 700psu i recommend antec or xfx



and btw www.newegg.com they cant be beat
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post #8 of 10
I'll list parts here. They will be from Newegg but you should be able to get the same thing at any decent parts store:

CPU Get the x4, no need for a phenom on a machine not playing intense games:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103871
Mobo something like this with an onboard video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157218

2 GB cheap DDR3 memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134793

Get a cheap Case/powersupply combo. don't spend a lot on an optical drive. 500GB - 1 TB should be more than enough space.

Install Windows 7 64 bit incase you decide to add more RAM down the road.



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Seagate Barracuda N/A Rasa RX360 kit Ubuntu 10.10 
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post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by berretta42 View Post
and btw www.newegg.com they cant be beat
I don't think UK folks can order from Newegg...I could be wrong though?
    
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Seagate Barracuda N/A Rasa RX360 kit Ubuntu 10.10 
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N/A N/A Raidmax 730 Watt IN WIN Dragon Rider 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda N/A Rasa RX360 kit Ubuntu 10.10 
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N/A N/A Raidmax 730 Watt IN WIN Dragon Rider 
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post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the help. In England, we have ebuyer. They do the job pretty well when it comes to ordering stuff online.
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