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post #31 of 59
I love how no one reads the article on OCN. Like ever... I'm seriously in favor of making the news section "read-only" so to speak.

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Commercial application stores like Apple's and Microsoft's do not have mechanisms to make source code for applications directly available. They also have some form of DRM lock which prevents the binary being passed on to another user, on all applications, even ones available for no charge in the market. It is these restrictions that make the stores incompatible with licences such as the GPL.
They're only doing it because they can't fully comply with the GPL. The only currently way they have around it is to use a dual GPL/Proprietary licenses.
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.....I'm pretty sure you can't change the article title in your thread title as per TOS....it's not the OP's fault the title is misleading..read the article, its posted RIGHT THERE at the top...all he did was copy and paste.
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Originally Posted by W4LNUT5 View Post
I love how no one reads the article on OCN. Like ever... I'm seriously in favor of making the news section "read-only" so to speak.



They're only doing it because they can't fully comply with the GPL. The only currently way they have around it is to use a dual GPL/Proprietary licenses.
Thanks for clearing this up. However, I wonder then why they don't just let the GPL through? IF they were really in support of open source and "free" apps then they would work to allow them. I'll hold out judgement for the moment but I do feel like everyone is following Apple's stranglehold business model because there seems to be major apathy by the consumers. It would be nice if MS didn't follow this model.
     
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Its still an inconvenience to us....

Its a global corporate take over, maybe people will start to listen when they wake up homeless....
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They're only doing it because they can't fully comply with the GPL. The only currently way they have around it is to use a dual GPL/Proprietary licenses.
Or they could just contact the author for the source. I don't think there is anything in the GPL about providing a convenient, integrated method to make source code available.
    
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Or they could just contact the author for the source. I don't think there is anything in the GPL about providing a convenient, integrated method to make source code available.
How about a web link within the application which opens the browser? I don't see how that's so difficult.
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How about a web link within the application which opens the browser? I don't see how that's so difficult.
A link in the app description the on market would be perfect.
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I can't wait until someone finds some GPL'd code in the OS though.
Err, the day that happens, is the day that Microsoft's share price drops to a tenth of what it is now. They'd be so sued, they wouldn't be the same company afterwards

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How about a web link within the application which opens the browser? I don't see how that's so difficult.
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A link in the app description the on market would be perfect.
Yep, this is what I was thinking. I think this is more about Microsoft's inbuilt "hatred" of open-source software (when compared to companies like Google, and even Oracle to a certain extent)
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Yep, this is what I was thinking. I think this is more about Microsoft's inbuilt "hatred" of open-source software (when compared to companies like Google, and even Oracle to a certain extent)
Microsoft doesn't necessarily "hate" open-source software, they actually have a ton of open-source projects themselves hosted on their CodePlex site. The WPF and Silverlight Control Toolkits are the biggest open-source projects from Microsoft that I have to deal with all the time at work.

I do believe that Microsoft hates the GPL license, and I tend to agree. The problem with GPL is it requires any derivative works to also be GPL-licensed. So if you work for a company and you're building a proprietary software product and you need to find a third-party library to accomplish something, and you find that library and discover it's GPL, now if you want to use that library your company has license the product as GPL and must freely provide its source code to anyone who asks for it and must agree they can use it or modify it for anything they want! Most companies cannot or will not do that for good reason.

/GPL rant.
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Microsoft doesn't necessarily "hate" open-source software, they actually have a ton of open-source projects themselves hosted on their CodePlex site. The WPF and Silverlight Control Toolkits are the biggest open-source projects from Microsoft that I have to deal with all the time at work.

I do believe that Microsoft hates the GPL license, and I tend to agree. The problem with GPL is it requires any derivative works to also be GPL-licensed. So if you work for a company and you're building a proprietary software product and you need to find a third-party library to accomplish something, and you find that library and discover it's GPL, now if you want to use that library your company has license the product as GPL and must freely provide its source code to anyone who asks for it and must agree they can use it or modify it for anything they want! Most companies cannot or will not do that for good reason.

/GPL rant.
Level-headed post from someone with some actual knowledge.


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