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Originally Posted by _GTech;12420105 
If your dual core is beating your quad core your not doing something correct or you got a really crummy quad core...

The phenom II's are slower clock for clock than the core2quad line so it should be no surprise that a i3 at 4GHz bests a P2.
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I look at the very nice i5-661, which by all rights is a powerful little chip as it can achieve high overclocks on an Air Cooler, just like the Sandy Bridge CPUs, except the only problem is, it's a dual core...

Intel being too smart for their customers decided to slap a very hefty price tag on their Core i3/i5 Dual Core CPUs which in turn made them a senseless buy for most consumers, despite their overclock-ability & hyper threading performance gains.

If you look at the prices listed below you can see where this article gains validity in view of the cost...

Intel Core i3/i5 Processor Cost:

i3-540 = $123
i3-550 = $130
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i5-650 = $190
i5-661 = $215
i5-680 = $310
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When we start stacking the i3s/i5s vs other Quad Cores or Dual Cores you can see the gross margin of error..

Quad Core i5-760 = $210 (This chip will destroy all i3/i5s in any comparison)
Core 2 Quad Q-8400 = $170
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Core 2 Duo E7500 = $125
Pentium E5500 = $73
Celeron Dual Core E5400 = $54

Despite these i5s & i3s having a GPU inside of the CPU, theses chips are better suited for the Mobile Market where an On-board GPU is primarily used the most. I'm not saying they don't have a use in Desktops, but the price is too substantial to warrant using them over the standard on-board video controller which comes with mATX motherboards. Nevertheless if video is the consumers main concern it would make more sense to buy an entry level or mid-range video card to obtain a substantial gain in performance over the i3/i5 GPUs integrated into the CPU...

Add to the fact that you have to use a more expensive RAM & Motherboard, the cost vs the benefit points to the real reason why I, and possibly many others, think that the i3/i5 Dual Core CPUs are a FAIL...

Just my 2 Cents I suppose...

Do you think the Core i3/i5 Dual Core CPUs are a FAIL too?

Discuss...
Except the core i architecture is quite a bit faster clock-for-clock than S775, plus you get hyperthreading and lower TDP's, so a basic price comparison between 1156 and 775 doesn't do the situation justice.

On the other hand, I wouldn't spend the extra money for one of the higher-end i3 or i5 cpu's if you plan to OC, since they all just about hit the same speed.

But an i3 or i5 would probably be overkill for 98% of the computer users out there, so no, they're not "fail." And I'd say a pretty good bang-for-buck.
    
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This rig will keep up with any quad. Point OP?
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1661168
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I think the Core i3 processors are great, but the dual core Core i5 are stupid.
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If your dual core is beating your quad core your not doing something correct or you got a really crummy quad core...


3dmark06 favors the i3 by about 500 points, folding is about a tie and cinebench 11.5 favors the quad.
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The phenom II's are slower clock for clock than the core2quad line so it should be no surprise that a i3 at 4GHz bests a P2.
Not all Core 2 Quads can beat a Phenom II.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/186?vs=76
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Not all Core 2 Quads can beat a Phenom II.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/186?vs=76
You compared a lower end C2Q to the highest end P2, lets be realistic here

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=186

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/48?vs=186
post #18 of 31
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The Phenom II X4 965 Black makes more sense than all of the i3/i5 Dual Cores to me...

Also, it just recently shattered the world record for AMD, so it's officially awesome!

I think AMD has better offerings than the i3/i5s for Desktop, like the Athlon II X4 & the Phenom II X4s...

I really cannot see a viable use for the i3/i5 dual cores myself, but maybe it's just me..
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the Clarkdales have on-die GPUs. hence the higher cost.

as for the ones without onboard GPU's they are cheap and OC well. they all have their places in the market
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You compared a lower end C2Q to the highest end P2, lets be realistic here

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=186

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/48?vs=186
I am not a fanboy but the Phenom II is alot better value than the Q9xxx series by far.

The i5 750 however owns the Phenom II.
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