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this makes me so salty lol are you kidding me. alright why dont you post ingame charts like you said dirt 3 has its own benchmark tool, and show us that instead of user generated graphs for the most parts. if all this si true then many guides will be able to subsitute lower end i7's for budgets of high end i3s and make the same differences. extraordinary. i still think the i7 is more future proof as more games will ustilize 4 cores and especially newer games using dual gpu scaling.
Correction: 4 Threads.
You know the truth and yet you are monopolized by their marketing scheme...
i3 is a 2C/4T CPU, i5 is a 4C/4T CPU, and like you said more games will utilize 4 threads.
And you completely fail the point of this thread, this thread is to be used as a guidance! For new people that are trying to buy new rigs and think that they will be capped if they buy an i3 so they will go all out on their CPU and buy a low-end GPU.
This happens cause of people like you. In an 700$ budget you would buy a 300$ CPU and a 80$ GPU, while I would buy an 100$ CPU and an 300$ GPU.

The OP did a good job and please stop polluting this thread cause your posting with no data to back you up and you will mislead people that will read your posts.
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this makes me so salty lol are you kidding me. alright why dont you post ingame charts like you said dirt 3 has its own benchmark tool, and show us that instead of user generated graphs for the most parts. if all this si true then many guides will be able to subsitute lower end i7's for budgets of high end i3s and make the same differences. extraordinary. i still think the i7 is more future proof as more games will ustilize 4 cores and especially newer games using dual gpu scaling.
See below.

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For new people that are trying to buy new rigs and think that they will be capped if they buy an i3 so they will go all out on their CPU and buy a low-end GPU.
In an 700$ budget you would buy a 300$ CPU and a 80$ GPU, while I would buy an 100$ CPU and an 300$ GPU.
^Correct. That is really the point. It would be like having a budget of $500 for a CPU+GPU. For example:
i3-550 + 2x 6950 1GB (lets say the cost is $120+$400=$520)
Or: i5-2500k + GTX 570 ($220+$300=$520)
This is presuming motherboard/ram costs are the same or similar.

Whichever way you put it, the i3 setup will still outperform the 2500k setup. But that is at the same price. Or you can just take the 6950s off and get a GTX 580 and it will cost less and still be comparable or faster.
    
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You never showed that, your results were with a single gtx 460.

It also has to factor into what you're playing, if you're playing only dual threaded games with a single gpu than adding more cores isn't going to help anything.

However if you've got a dual gpu setup, and are playing games where even a single gtx 460 shows gains over a dual core with HT, specially in the area of min fps, then the results would go the other way.

Balance for usage.

However keep in mind a quad core is still the highest anyone should go when selecting a gaming cpu, these results show that very clearly. Avoid hex and octo cores if your sole purpose is gaming.
    
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I have both chips and did your test and came out way different with the i7 actually beating on the i3 by at least 15fps Max and Min in most cases and if not higher in some others. ... On top of that i3 cant utilize dual video cards since it becomes the bottleneck with Dual Gtx 580s i could only get the i3 to run them at around 50% basically means my dual 580s turned into one lost half my performance just with a i3.
Here is an old benchmark from 2009. It shows that a very powerful cpu is sometimes needed to run 2 or 3 graphics cards in SLI.

http://benchmarkextreme.com/Articles...alysis/P6.html

Try testing i3 vs i7 with only one video card.
     
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However if you've got a dual gpu setup, and are playing games where even a single gtx 460 shows gains over a dual core with HT, specially in the area of min fps, then the results would go the other way.
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Taken from OP.

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Conclusion:
So there you have it. In most cases the i3 outperforms the i7, however it lags behind in Lost Planet 2, GTA IV and Dawn of War 2 - Games which require more CPU power. While there is not a huge difference (in most cases) here, there could be a bottleneck in Multi-GPU setups, where the CPU would need to do more work, so I suspect the i3 would fall further behind the i7 there although I don't have a pair of one graphics card to test so I can't provide those results. Overall though, these results amazed me because I thought the i7 would beat the i3 by a long way in most of these games, however that is not the case.

So if you considering moving from an i3 to an i7 and the main thing you do on your system is game then it may not be worth it to you, or if you are thinking of moving from an older generation of CPUs but are constricted by a budget, then the i3 is great once overclocked. Of course you could always upgrade for "future-proofing", especially now that an i7 setup can be had for a good price. In the end the i7 is still a better buy if you have the money for it but if you don't and are thinking of saving up but need a desperate upgrade, the i3 is something else you can consider for a lot less that will give you comparable performance in most of the games.

Thanks for reading and i appreciate any feedback.
~Razi3l
post #186 of 195
so many people actually miss the point of such comparisons. First generation i3's are a great budget chips. When overclocked at 4+ ghz an i3 is fast enough to pair it with single high end gpu such as 6950/70 or gtx570/580 without bottlenecking it. In fact Clarkdale i3 IMO is actually better buy than i3 sandy bridge cause SB i3 can not be overclocked. If only intel released K version of new i3... those would sell like crazy.

Check this review:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...or-review.html

and my thread of i3 550@4.33ghz vs i7 2600K@4.33ghz

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...4-3ghz-vs.html
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so many people actually miss the point of such comparisons. First generation i3's are a great budget chips. When overclocked at 4+ ghz an i3 is fast enough to pair it with single high end gpu such as 6950/70 or gtx570/580 without bottlenecking it. In fact Clarkdale i3 IMO is actually better buy than i3 sandy bridge cause SB i3 can not be overclocked. If only intel released K version of new i3... those would sell like crazy.

Check this review:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...or-review.html

and my thread of i3 550@4.33ghz vs i7 2600K@4.33ghz

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...4-3ghz-vs.html
I agree, the SB i3 is a no go for me no option to OC is lame. I have an i3-550 in my htpc. The little thing is a beast, had it at 4ghz for a while on the stock cooler. Ran it as a mid range gaming rig with a 560ti and it kicked butt.
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Taken from OP.
Yeah I never read it again, I made this post back on 2/17

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No, the verdict is in older games that are not optimized for 3+ cores the dual core cpu loses nothing to the same chip with more cores.

Think of it this way.

Take a cpu with 1 core i series core in it, in a program that can only use one core it will be as fast as a cpu with 20000000000000000000 core i series cores in it.

So in games that use only two cores like Crysis, a core i3 clocked the same as a core i7-9x0 will perform nearly the same. Adding more GPUs in this case will bottleneck on both chips exactly the same. The additional cores of an i7 would play no benefit whatsoever no matter how many gpus you add in a game that can only use two cores.

In a game that can use 4 cores, the core i7 can be significantly faster than the core i3, when you add more gpus this gap will grow significantly, because the additional gpu power will not provide any benefit past the point of a cpu bottleneck. If that bottleneck was reached on a single card with a i3, but not on the i7 chip, the gap will grow even greater.
    
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Nice review! Thank you! Repped
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Yeah I never read it again, I made this post back on 2/17
You missing the point, I agree with what you said on XX date, but put your self in this position.
You dont have much money and you want to buy a decent computer to do some gaming on right?
You have arround 600$, you wont do a multi gpu setup.
You will buy a CPU that will be enough for gaming and a GPU that can push enough frames at max quality for you to game.
People buying i3's wont put Sli 580's on them, thats brainless...

Hope you know that there are still people buying QuadCore Athlon's for gaming...
Because they are cheap...
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