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I agree that it should have been done at the same clocks. Not sure what affect only 4GB on the X58 would have on performance either (maybe nothing).

When I saw the BFBC2 results I immediately was ready to disagree with this whole testing but then saw this:
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Originally Posted by Razi3l;12423713 
I should also point out that in multiplayer mode, for BC2, the i7 is faster.

After reading that I gave it an honest read and do give you credit for a well written report. I can tell you right now that BC2 in MP would show probably the biggest differential in favor of the i7. I play several of the latest and older games and no other game I have gives me cpu temps after playing than BC2. Every game I have including crysis and metro 2033 my cpu temps never touch 50c. After playing BC2 MP, my temps are 60,55,60,58,60,59 (real temp).

Nice work overall!

Of course coming from wolfdale dual core to i5-750 to i7, all with SLI, I saw a bigger difference at each level up to the i7.
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probly shoulda tested with ht to and like others same clock speed is a must the benchmarks are flawed sence your using differt clocks.
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Originally Posted by Bal3Wolf;12426363 
probly shoulda tested with ht to and like others same clock speed is a must the benchmarks are flawed sence your using different clocks.

In a 3Dmark test 200Mhz makes a massive difference.
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And so does HT on i7's, which doesn't really translate over to any real world gain...
    
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So what's the verdict here. Unless you have SLI or crossfire you don't really need the fastest CPU available because most of the time the GPU will be maxed first. Unless you have a highly CPU intensive game which fully uses 4 cores, then you'll want 4.
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Why not with HT On?

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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon;12422767 
Nice comparison, a little surprising. I mean I know most games are still optimized for dual core, I guess I was hoping more would be taking advantage of the quad. I wonder how much the non-triple-channel ram (4gb?) hurt the i7.

This as well.

I would try to run the i7 in triple channel, turn HT on, and bring both chips to 4GHz even. I think that's a little more fair towards the i7's side.
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Originally Posted by Ding Chavez;12426773 
So what's the verdict here. Unless you have SLI or crossfire you don't really need the fastest CPU available because most of the time the GPU will be maxed first. Unless you have a highly CPU intensive game which fully uses 4 cores, then you'll want 4.

No, the verdict is in older games that are not optimized for 3+ cores the dual core cpu loses nothing to the same chip with more cores.

Think of it this way.

Take a cpu with 1 core i series core in it, in a program that can only use one core it will be as fast as a cpu with 20000000000000000000 core i series cores in it.

So in games that use only two cores like Crysis, a core i3 clocked the same as a core i7-9x0 will perform nearly the same. Adding more GPUs in this case will bottleneck on both chips exactly the same. The additional cores of an i7 would play no benefit whatsoever no matter how many gpus you add in a game that can only use two cores.

In a game that can use 4 cores, the core i7 can be significantly faster than the core i3, when you add more gpus this gap will grow significantly, because the additional gpu power will not provide any benefit past the point of a cpu bottleneck. If that bottleneck was reached on a single card with a i3, but not on the i7 chip, the gap will grow even greater.
    
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Enough of this garbage, I'm locking this and cleaning up.

So disappointing...
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Alright. I almost became physically sick as I took the time to read through this whole thread. There was absolutely no reason to start any of this bickering - there's an old saying you know; if you have nothing nice to say, then don't say it at all.

There was no reason, whatsoever, no matter how you look at it. That said, I'm not saying that you can't post your criticism based on the OP's actual tests, but coming in here and insulting other members because of your own little complex you got going on... isn't necessary here.

Y'all are lucky I'm not going to hand out infractions at this point... but don't give me a reason to.

Now, play nice.
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I didn't see anyone insulting anyone, we were having a conversation about the reasons the i3 came up neck and neck with the i7 in some of the tests. Now all the posts that gave exact reasoning on why the i3 came up so close to the i7 in some of the tests are deleted.
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