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I didn't see anyone insulting anyone, we were having a conversation about the reasons the i3 came up neck and neck with the i7 in some of the tests. Now all the posts that gave exact reasoning on why the i3 came up so close to the i7 in some of the tests are deleted.

Those facts were never in question. It was the fact that there was a constant bash battle about 40 posts long. Unfortunately, there were posts that were entangled in that battle which contained good information. Just to be clear that just because a post was deleted doesn't mean that it was infringing anything. However, there are posts that fitted that category, and were dealt with as such.
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Well I'll reiterate then for the people who don't know why the i3 comes up with the i7 in some of the tests.

The reason the i3 comes up close to the i7 in several of them is because the games do not utilize more than 2 cores so the additional cores of the i7 do not come into play. However a couple of the games where the i3 is within afew percentage points of the i7 do utilize 4+ threads(Just cause 2, bad company 2) The reason being with the high overclock of the i3 and the settings these were tested at causes the video card to be the limiting factor so no matter how much faster the i7 could process information the video card just can't run any faster so they come out as essentially the exact same. Now once we get to the games that the i7 does show improved performance the reasons being that they are more cpu intensive games and the additional threads are needed to push the video card to its max.

Also note that the games that came up the same that can utilize 4+ threads would show a major difference in performance had this been done with a top of the line single video card(580/6970/570) or sli/xfire since the cpu would then become the limiting factor with the i3.
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I had a post in this thread deleted which was not derogatory in any way and offered some things to the discussion, think you went a little overboard

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Why not with HT On?




This as well.

I would try to run the i7 in triple channel, turn HT on, and bring both chips to 4GHz even. I think that's a little more fair towards the i7's side.
my post that was deleted said these same things...
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I had a post in this thread deleted which was not derogatory in any way and offered some things to the discussion, think you went a little overboard



my post that was deleted said these same things...
My apologies. Your post must've gotten mixed up in the deletion queue. It's been restored.
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The i7 seems to be winning in most of the games with higher minimum fps than the i3. The only games that it did lose in were JC2 and BC2 (which is odd, because I know for a fact that BC2 is multithreaded for quads.)

Don't see why you're saying that the i3 is outperforming the i7 in most of the tests, when it's quite the opposite.

However, I will say that the results are still close to each other, and just goes to show that a i3 can still give good results for the price.
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pretty impressive work there OP, nice review. surprising.
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Well I'll reiterate then for the people who don't know why the i3 comes up with the i7 in some of the tests.

The reason the i3 comes up close to the i7 in several of them is because the games do not utilize more than 2 cores so the additional cores of the i7 do not come into play. However a couple of the games where the i3 is within afew percentage points of the i7 do utilize 4+ threads(Just cause 2, bad company 2) The reason being with the high overclock of the i3 and the settings these were tested at causes the video card to be the limiting factor so no matter how much faster the i7 could process information the video card just can't run any faster so they come out as essentially the exact same. Now once we get to the games that the i7 does show improved performance the reasons being that they are more cpu intensive games and the additional threads are needed to push the video card to its max.

Also note that the games that came up the same that can utilize 4+ threads would show a major difference in performance had this been done with a top of the line single video card(580/6970/570) or sli/xfire since the cpu would then become the limiting factor with the i3.
This thread will be useful to the few who run an i3 with a single GPU setup. The point that you made (that I've bolded) about how the GPU was the limiting factor should be obvious to everyone! I think it's common knowledge that, at higher resolutions and settings maxed, the GPU becomes the limiting factor. No one doubted this! The point is that there are people out there who go for the single GPU setup with an i7, and this thread "proves" that there is little to no reason for this, considering the i3 can give you close-to-the-same performance.

EDIT Forgot to thank the OP for such an informative review. Thanks OP!
 
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I have an i3 @4ghz. and it is way more than enough for bc2 maxed multiplayer, however for the next generation of games i am going to upgrade to more cores for better performance(epeen). although today id probably go over an i5 over i7(+$100).

edit: i am also only running 1gpy
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My apologies. Your post must've gotten mixed up in the deletion queue. It's been restored.
What about my post where I explained how additional cores wouldn't make a difference, and how even more gpu power based on a core limit wouldn't affect either cpu.

I also stated how in modern quad core games the difference could be very minor, because of a weaker gpu and thus it being the bottleneck, or quite high because of the additional gpu power and the limiting power of a i3 cpu.


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What about my post where I explained how additional cores wouldn't make a difference, and how even more gpu power based on a core limit wouldn't affect either cpu.

I also stated how in modern quad core games the difference could be very minor, because of a weaker gpu and thus it being the bottleneck, or quite high because of the additional gpu power and the limiting power of a i3 cpu.


Restore me please

Done, good sir. Interesting, I don't remember adding those posts to the deletion queue. Doesn't make much sense... .
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